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Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:16 am
by BLAZE
My God Man! They need to take this son of a b--ch out!

Even if they get this little boy back alive, which I hope
the god they do.

sorry to the folks who object to the death sentence BUT!

He is not safe to be around anyone and he killed someone
and COME ON!.. a 5 year old boy hostage?

SO.. No court.. No trial.. Just death! >:( Good By Wack Ball!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57567060/alabama-standoff-negotiators-talking-to-captor-through-pipe/

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:36 am
by garryrussell
First off...the US has to stop this ridiculous gun law which allows them as a normal part of society.

Control guns

How much of this sort of thing as with the recent shooting is the US going to put up with until it comes to it's senses and does the obvious?.

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:35 am
by wifesaysno
First off...the US has to stop this ridiculous gun law which allows them as a normal part of society.

Control guns

How much of this sort of thing as with the recent shooting is the US going to put up with until it comes to it's senses and does the obvious?.


Garry, as a responsible gun owner myself, I have to disagree with you as do millions upon millions of responsible and safe gun owning Americans do.

The fork is the most deadly weapon in the US right now!  ;D

On the topic of the good of guns:
http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_van_uhm_ ... a_gun.html
;)

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:38 am
by ftldave
SO.. No court.. No trial.. Just death! >:( Good By Wack Ball!


Sorry, I don't really think we should go back to death by stoning or lynch mobs. Civilized societies must have criminal justice systems, imperfect though they may be. It really would not be a good idea to abandon civilization just because you're angry about the evil some psycho criminal has done. If a society or a government can abuse the guilty, the next easy step is to start abusing and oppressing those who are not guilty. There really is much to be said about the Rule of Law, considering the alternatives.

The gun rights issue is tainted by the fact that so much money is involved - the gun business is a big business, and lots of profits to be made. But something has to change in light of the repeated massacres in the US. I don't think responsible gun owners are getting any new supporters by saying "gun control won't help - get used to mass murderers using guns, live with it." The NRA is doing a lousy campaign this time, too, with its ridiculous proposals to turn schools into prisons with armed guards everywhere. Not to mention that over-the-top ad about the President's children. I even saw one gun-rights supporter, a science-fiction author, actually making the claim that he should have the right to own a Minuteman missile.

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:51 am
by Romulus111VADT
The 911 terrorist used box cutters and high jacked aircraft to kill 3,000 +.

Timothy McVeigh used ammonium nitrate and motor-racing fuel to kill 160 +.

Seems to me that Norway has some of the strictest gun control laws and the laws didn't stop a determined pyscho getting weapons and from killing 77 people.

People hell bent on killing will not be stopped or deterred in anyway by any laws that only law abiding people will follow.

My two cents..... ::)

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:56 am
by wifesaysno
SO.. No court.. No trial.. Just death! >:( Good By Wack Ball!


Sorry, I don't really think we should go back to death by stoning or lynch mobs. Civilized societies must have criminal justice systems, imperfect though they may be. It really would not be a good idea to abandon civilization just because you're angry about the evil some psycho criminal has done. If a society or a government can abuse the guilty, the next easy step is to start abusing and oppressing those who are not guilty. There really is much to be said about the Rule of Law, considering the alternatives.



Yes sir, then there is the issue of mental problems. It sounds like this guy had some kind of mental problem. If he had received the proper help this whole even might have been avoided.

Once again, I stand that the real issue with violent crimes like this has to do more with a lack of proper care for special needs people.
More often than not.

Because it is likely a mental disorder, it is very unfair to just give them the death penalty. In cases like this, plenty of times the mentally impaired do not understand what they did is wrong or can control themselves.

Once again, DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME ON THIS!!!!!
I have had to deal with plenty of pretty nasty problems with special needs family members. I know what I am talking about.

Tailwinds,
Adam

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:28 am
by CHUCK79
Blaming the instrument is the most rediculous cop out ever. When someone produces a bad song do we blame his guitar? When a bad book is written do we outlaw pens?

A psychopath will kill a person with a rock picked off the street....no gun needed. No one wants to take responsibility for the actual reasons that people die from violent acts.......PEOPLE!!

I've had guns since I was big enough to hold one and I've never killed anyone as far as I know ::)

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:38 am
by CHUCK79
I don't see why hunters need semi-automatic military style weapons - certainly not over .22





;D ;D.....a .22 caliber hunting rifle........ ;D ;D

That's actually illegal here in Washington State. We have what they call "Big Game" here.
Shooting a deer with a .22 is more likely to mame or wound than to kill. Very irresponsible.

Imagine facing down a charging bear with a single shot .22 that you already fired your single shot from :o

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:50 am
by Bass
Hard stuff, eah...
Sorry for climing in.

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:04 pm
by ftldave
[quote]Imagine facing down a charging bear with a single shot .22 that you already fired your single shot from :o

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:13 pm
by CHUCK79
I may never face down a charging bear. I surely don't want to have a single shot .22 in my hand if I do though ;)

I would have no problem checking my guns in with "trusted" local authorities if they were readily available when I wanted them for sport use...... Like the Ol' West when you had to check your guns before going into town. I think that's a fair idea except for one thing. I need a gun for home defense too. If allowed to keep one weapon for this purpose it would be a viable idea on a small scale, but too expensive for large scale......in big cities where most of the violence happens :-/

Re: Can you believe this CRAP?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:24 pm
by ozzy72
Right. This is turning into a peeing the furthest contest and has no place here. LOCKED!
Next idiotic news thread saying people need to be "taken out" WILL see the imbecile posting it BANNED!
This is your ONLY warning!
I've seen too many of these idiotic episodes over the years to tolerate. We like discussion but we come here to get away from the negativity of the Press. DEAL WITH IT!