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A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:31 pm
by H
There was a movie made about a supposed 'time travel' event with one of our WW2 ships. The following abridged quote was taken from the actual ship's account; was this the ship of the event or was the Hull just the oldest destroyer in our fleet, perhaps with a Viking dragon on its bow?

"After final alterations in New York Navy Yard, USS Hunt (DD-674) cleared Norfolk on December 2, 1043."


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Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:40 pm
by Fozzer
..obviously a failed attempt the prevent the ultimate invasion of Britain by William, Duke of Normandy... :o...!

Paul...another Ancient Briton... 8-)...!

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:54 pm
by Apex
I'm at work & that link won't open right now, it'll open at home & I'll check it out.

Two movies come to mind: 'The Philadelphia Experiment' & 'The Final Countdown'.  Google 'em up.  

'The Philadelphia Experiment' was based on the US Navy's alleged experiment in 1943 to render a warship invisible.  Both movies are pretty neat.

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:30 pm
by Fozzer
[quote]I'm at work & that link won't open right now, it'll open at home & I'll check it out.

Two movies come to mind: 'The Philadelphia Experiment' & 'The Final Countdown'.

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:10 pm
by SubZer0
A friend and I actually made a time machine at work out of a modified Christmas music box that played 'Silent Night,' a rubber band, a bookmark, and some white out. So far we have only tested it with a small piece of cardboard, but it seems to be a promising prototype.

;D

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:11 pm
by Ravang
I've done a bit of searching on this and found two ships named the USS Hunt, (DD-194) and (DD-674).

DD-194 was a Clemson-class destroyer launched on Feb. 14, 1920. She served with the US Navy until 1930, where she was handed over to the US Coast Guard. Then in 1934 she was returned to the US Navy and served until 1940. She was then given to the Royal Navy and scrapped in 1947. Her history does mention a trip to Norfolk, V.A. after being refitted in Philadelphia. She departed Jan. 26, 1940 and after a Neutrality patrol in the Caribbean Sea made Norfolk on April 17, 1940. She continued patrols up and down the east coast for a few months before being given to the Royal Navy.

The other ship DD-674 launched Aug. 1, 1943. Went on a shakedown cruise off of Bermuda and went for final alterations in New York Navy Yard, the USS Hunt cleared Norfolk, Va. for the Pacific 2 December 1943. I think someone made a logbook error and changed 1943 to 1043. ;D

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:28 pm
by H
Two movies come to mind: 'The Philadelphia Experiment' & 'The Final Countdown'.
'The Philadelphia Experiment' was based on the US Navy's alleged experiment in 1943 to render a warship invisible.
Aha, The Philadelphia Experiment was the one I was thinking about; The Final Countdown was the USS Nimitz being timeported back to 1941 just prior to the Pearl Harbor attack.

The other ship DD-674 launched Aug. 1, 1943. Went on a shakedown cruise off of Bermuda and went for final alterations in New York Navy Yard, the USS Hunt cleared Norfolk, Va. for the Pacific 2 December 1943. I think someone made a logbook error and changed 1943 to 1043. ;D
...rather than the year, maybe they were reading the hour from their military clock... ::)
or, in the line Foz speaks of, the English miscalculated the date and location of William of Normandy's landing (no wonder Harold lost, his secret hi-tech supership was on the wrong side of the Atlantic.



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Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:43 pm
by Ravang
The other ship DD-674 launched Aug. 1, 1943. Went on a shakedown cruise off of Bermuda and went for final alterations in New York Navy Yard, the USS Hunt cleared Norfolk, Va. for the Pacific 2 December 1943. I think someone made a logbook error and changed 1943 to 1043. ;D
...rather than the year, maybe they were reading the hour from their military clock... ::)



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That could be a possibility. I'd really like to see the original logbook but its no doubt locked away in some dusty naval archive someplace... :'(

...I love researching ships and shipwrecks... ;)  

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:00 pm
by Hagar
Are you sure this is the actual logbook entry & not a typo by someone writing a history of the ship? 'Tis easily done as I know all too well.
http://ftp.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/dafs/DD/dd674.html

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:09 pm
by Ravang
Are you sure this is the actual logbook entry & not a typo by someone writing a history of the ship? 'Tis easily done as I know all too well. http://ftp.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/dafs/DD/dd674.html

That's why I would love to see a scan of the ship's log. To see the entry was messed up or if it was someone else who made the typo later on...
The website you link to says...
After shakedown off Bermuda and final alterations in New York Navy Yard, Hunt cleared Norfolk for the Pacific 2 December 1043.

Since a ship can not make port 900 years before she set sail. It would be interesting to find when the typo was made...well interesting to me anyway...

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:16 pm
by Hagar
The website you link to says...
After shakedown off Bermuda and final alterations in New York Navy Yard, Hunt cleared Norfolk for the Pacific 2 December 1043.

Since a ship can not make port 900 years before she set sail. It would be interesting to find when the typo was made...well interesting to me anyway...

That was the point of my posting the link. Presumably it's the official history of the USS Hunt II (DD-674) approved by the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations, Naval History Division

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:17 pm
by Ravang
To hopefully settle this I have put in a request for a scan of the USS Hunt's (DD-674) logbook to the Naval History and Heritage Command... ;D

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:20 pm
by Hagar
Well, I think it's a lot of fuss over nothing, like all these so-called mysteries. LOL :P

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:39 pm
by Ravang
Well, I think it's a lot of fuss over nothing, like all these so-called mysteries. LOL :P

I'm very interested in any having to do with ships histories, shipwrecks, and of course treasure! I think that it would be pretty neat to find the original log had an error in it, but more likely than not it's just a typo on a website.


....Next ship mystery or question please! ;D


(I guess I could have worst hobbies.... :-/)

Re: A Hunt for the Past

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:50 pm
by Hagar
Well, I think it's a lot of fuss over nothing, like all these so-called mysteries. LOL :P

I'm very interested in any having to do with ships histories, shipwrecks, and of course treasure! I think that it would be pretty neat to find the original log had an error in it, but more likely than not it's just a typo on a website.


....Next ship mystery or question please! ;D


(I guess I could have worst hobbies.... :-/)

I've heard of worse hobbies. ;)

I discovered that same account copied word for word on another site. That's excepting the last sentence which proves the original account was written before 1 December 1974. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/dd-674.htm

This site also confirms that US Navy ships deck logs are handwritten. http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq73-1.htm

If the wrong date was in the original logbook it's more likely to be a blot or smudge than a mistake.