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Is this website a scam?

Postby tcco94 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:35 am

Someone gave it to me on youtube and there's a video on it too and its about getting a packet on how to become a navy or air force pilots to your email.

http://www.becomefighterpilot.com/index ... Ggod2CXvDg

Do you guys think its an okay website?
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:19 am

It could be. However, it's fairly easy to fake some testimonials and put them on a site. After all, they just want to sell you something.

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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby Slotback » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:57 am

I think it is real; it was discussed on some naval forums with real pilots. But don't expect to become a fight pilot because you bought some pack. ;) Try asking on Airwarriors forum, or baseops forum. ;) Infact, if you want to be a fighter pilot don't buy that pack and just ask on the above forums.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby tcco94 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:22 pm

Well im not planing on using that as a key to become a fighter pilot but the person who had emailed it to me said it was free so I was like oh well there might be some things that I might not know of.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby flyboy 28 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:46 pm

The best way to get any sort of information (enlisted or commissioned)  is to contact your local recruiter.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:50 pm

Well im not planing on using that as a key to become a fighter pilot but the person who had emailed it to me said it was free so I was like oh well there might be some things that I might not know of.


Free?

Due to the holiday rush I've decided to extend our special offer! Through midnight on Sunday, January 11th, 2009, I'm offering the entire Fighter Pilot Power Pack for a one-time investment of just $197 (a $100 savings)! and I'm also including the 8 bonuses worth $373 absolutely free. That's over a $770 value for just $197! Click here to order now.


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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby C » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:49 pm

I doubt there's anything scammy, it just appears that some people are trying to profit from selling their knowledge.

As people point out though, with the internet fora covering so many subjects, you can often just find information yourselves, to back up what recruiters can give you (PPrune for example, has a dedicated million page sticky of advice for those going to the British RAF Officer and Aircrew Selection Centre, where people will impart knowledge, for free).
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby tcco94 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:21 pm

Okay I see what I was seeing. It says the email course is free well thats what I read which I think wont include anything really but for all that stuff it costs $120 or something like that which I would never pay.

Ive already bought a big book called How to a naval avaitor for $20. So is giving them my email the scam part that I was wondering about. I dont want to get more bulk mail and I sure as heck dont want newsletters every week from this guy either.

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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby H » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:17 pm

Ive already bought a big book called How to Be a Naval Avaitor for $20.
Somehow, I don't think that amount will be a viable bribe. ;)

So is giving them my email the scam part that I was wondering about. I dont want to get more bulk mail and I sure as heck don't want newsletters every week from this guy, either.
Usually, an e-mail address is for e-mail to be sent to.


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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby legoalex2000 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:00 am

in the realm of World of Warcraft, this sight is all too familiar.

here is something that might look similar to the webpage you referenced

http://www.zygorguides.com/?hop=discount18

yeah they are real books... but i swear everyone is using the same sales template...
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby elite marksman » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:06 pm

I don't know what he's selling, but there aren't really any tips and tricks to doing it.

For the USAF (not sure about USN or USMC), the requirements are pretty much straightforward.

1) Do well in school. College grades are a large portion of what decides who gets a slot to pilot school (IIRC 15%).
2) Get noticed by your commander (AFROTC or USAFA) CO's recommendation is 50% of the selection criteria.
3) Do well on the AFOQT, study guides are not necessary, but can be helpful depending on how you do at tests. I did no studying and scored a 94 pilot and 93 nav (out of 100), but for others a bit of studying may be helpful. Study guides are usually available at the detachment for AFROTC. Minimums for pilot is 25 pilot and 10 nav, but pilot + nav must total 50
4) Be fit, PFA score is also a factor for admission to pilot or nav training
5) Do well at field training, FT score is a factor.

The above was given to me by one of the cadre on the first day of classes and I'm going from memory. There may be one or two more criteria that I missed, but I don't think so.

I do hope that the person(s) involved are not active-duty as I would consider this to be extremely unethical for a serviceman or woman. Especially since the statement that specific information is impossible to find because it is actually very easy. Walk in the door of the local USAF, USN, or USMC recruiter and ask for information regarding becoming a pilot, or head to the service's site and do the same.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby Mobius » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:20 pm

I don't know what he's selling, but there aren't really any tips and tricks to doing it.

For the USAF (not sure about USN or USMC), the requirements are pretty much straightforward.

1) Do well in school. College grades are a large portion of what decides who gets a slot to pilot school (IIRC 15%).
2) Get noticed by your commander (AFROTC or USAFA) CO's recommendation is 50% of the selection criteria.
3) Do well on the AFOQT, study guides are not necessary, but can be helpful depending on how you do at tests. I did no studying and scored a 94 pilot and 93 nav (out of 100), but for others a bit of studying may be helpful. Study guides are usually available at the detachment for AFROTC. Minimums for pilot is 25 pilot and 10 nav, but pilot + nav must total 50
4) Be fit, PFA score is also a factor for admission to pilot or nav training
5) Do well at field training, FT score is a factor.

The above was given to me by one of the cadre on the first day of classes and I'm going from memory. There may be one or two more criteria that I missed, but I don't think so.

I do hope that the person(s) involved are not active-duty as I would consider this to be extremely unethical for a serviceman or woman. Especially since the statement that specific information is impossible to find because it is actually very easy. Walk in the door of the local USAF, USN, or USMC recruiter and ask for information regarding becoming a pilot, or head to the service's site and do the same.


The last I heard, GPA has no factor in selection anymore, only AFOQT score is considered, but that is for OTS and it sounds like you're in AFROTC, so they might still consider GPA for you guys.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby tcco94 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:52 pm

;DWell the book I had was just some of the requirement talks it wasnt meant to get you to be a naval avaiator just sortof what its like because most of it talks about what types of aircraft you'll fly.


Im first trying to get ready for college but I have a long ways to go only a freshman right now but im trying for the Naval or Air Force academy which will be hard but if not that definatly a ROTC school of those branches. See now im more navy because my eyes are plain out HORRIBLE. I mean horrible like I cant even read the second line of big words at the eye doctor bearly. My dad had bad eyes so I most likely got it from him but thats why if I can get surgery and get them fixed to the right standard to be a pilot and they stop going bad then ill start more and more but im not totally sure that will happen.

Thats why I have back up positions I would like the be as a Naval Officer if I can get it. So becoming a pilot is my #1 thing on the list but I know that if my eyes cant do it then its fine with me im just understanding that now so that I can have some back ups and not be like I wanna quit or something. So I mean I still have high school and college and im not sure what my eyes will even be like by then but since the last time ive visited the eye doctor I wanted to be a pilot so now when I see him again I wanna ask him what he thinks my eyes will be like. Also I havent heard of this but is there like a regulation that your eyes cant be past a certain point even without surgery?

Example of what I mean like if my eyes were 20/200 then my recruiter tells me even if I had surgery and they were back to 20/20 that I cant do that because there so bad right now that they're affraid its to bad to see even with the surgery?
If you see what im saying.

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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby Mobius » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:12 pm

So, the "official" Air Force opinion on the matter (as far as I know) is you can have vision as bad as -1.50 diopters (20/70), and not need any kind of waiver to pass the Class I flight physical.
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Re: Is this website a scam?

Postby elite marksman » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:39 am

With regards to vision, I would not recommend getting surgery on your own, for AFROTC cadets anyway. If you are selected for pilot training out of AFROTC and require corrective surgery, the Air Force will provide it. This may also be true for the USAFA and OTS, but I'm not sure.

However, as will all surgeries, there are risks, and one risk of any surgery on the eye is blindness, both permanent and temporary, so weigh the risks and rewards before going through with it.
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