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filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:40 pm
by legoalex2000
http://www.koat.com/news/15717381/detail.html

I filled up at the Shell station near my house. and whaddya know... im affected.

the Shell will provide free Towing and Cleaning of the engine

:)Ramos - thank god fir a second vehicle.

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:09 pm
by expat
Last year or so, there was a similar sort of problem in the UK. Fuel delivered to supermarkets had (if memory serves) way too much silicon in it. Hundreds of drivers filled up drove off and then came to a halt with engine damage. It cast the supermarkets and the fuel companies quite a bit in repair costs.

Matt

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:33 pm
by Triple_7
That happened here last summer, it wasn't enough to cause major issues or a stall (about a 15% diesel mix)...but my truck never smoked like that before :o  Only problem was I couldn't do anything about it as it was actually farm fuel, which is dyed red, higher sulfur, leaded, and isn't legal road fuel :-X  If the cops were to dip into your tank for a sample you can get pretty high fines for running farm fuel in your normal vehicle...partly because its tax exempt :-X

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:06 pm
by C
Having just bought my first diesel car (did I mention the 55mpg average it does? ;) :)), I have to fight the urge to pick up the green nozzle each time I fill up (did I mention that is now only once in 600miles... ;D).

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:36 pm
by Flying Trucker
Good evening all... :)

I do believe here a diesel nozzle is too large to go into a gasoline tank and the pumps are marked and colour coded.

Farm fuel has a dye in it and the vehicle using that fuel must have "FARM LICENCE PLATES" or be a motorized piece of farm equipment.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:05 pm
by Brett_Henderson
When a sleepy lineman fills your C172 with Jet-A... T H A T's something to worry about

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:16 pm
by legoalex2000
well... here's the news.

> truck towed for free, just picked it up a few min ago...
> took it to the dealership, im in line in front of 44 others
> news reporting around 750-900 cars affected.

true the green nozzle is too big for mine, but it matters not when diesel was pumped into the gas chamber underground.

i'm gonna be in chicago all weekend, so they'll have no rush for me.

:)Ramos

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:00 pm
by a1
diesel :o... don't be a wuss and just make the jump to anti-matter already. ;D ;D


I don't know much about diesel powered vehicals but sounds lke something good from what you are saying.

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:58 pm
by legoalex2000
diesel :o... don't be a wuss and just make the jump to anti-matter already. ;D ;D


I don't know much about diesel powered vehicals but sounds lke something good from what you are saying.


Gasoline and Diesel are very different from each other. mostly chemical compounds and the like are different, but here's the major difference.

Gas is injected and ignited (hence "spark" plugs) and moves the valves . Diesel fuel is injected and is more of less heated with pressure. Diesel does not ignite like gasoline. and with no spark igniton source, a gasoline engine cannot turn.

How the actual Diesel engine works is beyond me, but thats the basics I know.

:)Ramos

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:15 am
by Ivan
Diesels can run on gasoline (diesels run on anything flammable)... but the lack of lubrication makes the cylinders get stuck

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:48 am
by C
but the lack of lubrication makes the cylinders get stuck


Therein lies the problem! ;D

When a sleepy lineman fills your C172 with Jet-A... T H A T's something to worry about


I have to say I was quite surprised when I was doing groundschool for the B200 that the PT6's were clear to run on AVGAS...


...although it took the time between overhauls down to about 125hrs!

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:04 am
by Brett_Henderson
If I get fuel at an airport where the LL100 and Jet-A pumps are near each other... and I don't SEE the actual re-fueling... I'll un-cap the tanks and take a whiff... old habit..

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:50 pm
by Ivan
I have to say I was quite surprised when I was doing groundschool for the B200 that the PT6's were clear to run on AVGAS...


...although it took the time between overhauls down to about 125hrs!

Lead content kills the burners on most engines

MiG-21 and Su-25s are allowed to run on diesel fuel (with shorter TBOs).

And most russian piston stuff (non-injected AI-14s and the AN-2 engine) in the west runs fuel way higher in octane than needed. Those engines are usually built for 91 octane car fuel

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:28 pm
by Alejandro Rhodes
Errmm Once upon a time ,me and some fellows were haunting far away from the city (maybe 20 years ago) I had a ford fairmont ,and we ran out of gas in the middle of no where, and someone brought like 2 galons of kerosene in my trunk , we spend nearly 2 days waiting for help ,I took the desition to drop this into the tank and couple drops in the carburator ,after moving the the distribuition and set the best timing and calibrate the carburator, we roll nearly 50 miles and we still had more we get to the gas station and full the tank with gasoline ,and I put every thing back to where it was..

Of course as many who I tell this doesn't believe me and I don't espect it from you ,th withneses One of them died and the other 2 never heard of them,

I never like to tell this ,but what the H** ;D , it really did

Re: filling my gasoline truck with diesel

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:43 am
by Ivan
@alrot: i've heard of dakar trucks running on kerosine + motor oil...

so why woulndt that work in a car... its a few octane higher than usual but it still burns the same way