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Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:02 am
by Katahu
If you were born on a plane that took off from the UK on a BA plane bound for the US and the plane lands in Canada because of your unexpect birth, what country will your place of birth be and where would your citizenship be place at?

http://people.howstuffworks.com/ref/air ... m?cid=rss1

A very interesting question. ::)

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:18 am
by Ecko
Been posted. :)

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:34 am
by H
Without running off of the forum:
my grandmother was born a Canadian and my mother was born in Canada. However, my grandfather was a U.S. citizen so, when my infant mother was brought across the border, she, too, was a U.S. citizen.


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Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:32 am
by Stormtropper
I believe the parent gets to pick if the birth happened over international waters...

...which other country are you gonna pick besides the good old stars and stripes? 8)

my grandmother was born a Canadian and my mother was born in Canada. However, my grandfather was a U.S. citizen so, when my infant mother was brought across the border, she, too, was a U.S. citizen.


That might have something to do with the fact that it was before the days of record keeping, so anyone can obtain a US Citizenship fairly easily...

...easier to just acknowledge his citizenship than to prove that he was not a citizen

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:51 am
by Saitek
Look in the real aviation forum . ::) ;)
Time you had another dose. :P

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:57 am
by Woodlouse2002
You would assume the nationality of your parents.

I know a guy who's father was English, his mother was American and he was born in France. Guess who has three passports. :)


Now i'm going to read the artical. ;D

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:54 am
by Fozzer
You would assume the nationality of your parents.

I know a guy who's father was English, his mother was American and he was born in France. Guess who has three passports. :)


Now I'm going to read the article. ;D


I would have expected a simple answer to that question, but having read the whole article I am still no wiser, and all it has given me is a headache.... :o...!

Paul.... ;D...!

If my dear old Mum was in danger of giving birth to me en-route to the United States, I hope that she would have thrown me out of the aeroplane before we landed there... ;)...!
LOL... ;D...!

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:09 am
by H
That might have something to do with the fact that it was before the days of record keeping, so anyone can obtain a US Citizenship fairly easily...
Are you the great-great-great-great-great-grandparent of Rip van Winkle? What year was it when you began your multimillenial hibernation? The gramophone was invented well before my mother's birth, thank you, and my mother kept quite a number of records (even had a record of her from the days she sang over the radio -- also well before I was born).
;D ;D ;D


I also have a copy of my mother's birth certificate and my grandmother had hers, too: even Canada kept records back in my great-grandparents time. Let's see, the earliest records were a few thousand B.C.? Sumerians on clay tablets, Egyptians used papyrus (from which the term 'paper')...

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Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:06 pm
by Stormtropper
Are you the great-great-great-great-great-grandparent of Rip van Winkle? What year was it when you began your multimillenial hibernation? The gramophone was invented well before my mother's birth, thank you, and my mother kept quite a number of records (even had a record of her from the days she sang over the radio -- also well before I was born).
;D ;D ;D


I also have a copy of my mother's birth certificate and my grandmother had hers, too: even Canada kept records back in my great-grandparents time. Let's see, the earliest records were a few thousand B.C.? Sumerians on clay tablets, Egyptians used papyrus (from which the term 'paper')...
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First....can you please stop typing in that color? what is wrong with black and white? and that navy blue is quite annoying...

...and second - I guess it was really my fault that I didn't exactly word that the best way possible - what I meant was that nothing was computerized, everything were in file folders. Immigration papers would only be kept at the local office, and just about no one else would have access to them. And moreover, records weren't even kept for the young kids...

...and on top of all that, the existing records can be easily forged.

In the end, as the citizenship/naturization laws clearly reflects, up until about 15 years ago, American Citizenship was, pertty much, availble to anyone without a felony conviction and can pay the processing fee...

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:09 pm
by Woodlouse2002
Without running off of the forum:
my grandmother was born a Canadian and my mother was born in Canada. However, my grandfather was a U.S. citizen so, when my infant mother was brought across the border, she, too, was a U.S. citizen.


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Basically you're entitled to the same citizenship as your parents. If your parents are from different countries then the child will have citizenship for both nations regardless of where he or she was born. Moreover, if the child was born in a third country then it is entitled to citizenship from that one too. That is how your mother became a US citizen. Because her father was one already.

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:19 pm
by gijake

I would have expected a simple answer to that question, but having read the whole article I am still no wiser, and all it has given me is a headache.... :o...!

Paul.... ;D...!

If my dear old Mum was in danger of giving birth to me en-route to the United States, I hope that she would have thrown me out of the aeroplane before we landed there... ;)...!
LOL... ;D...!

Oh, come on now, it's not that bad here.  The weather is nice, and, ummmm, well,  did I mention the weather?

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:14 pm
by Fozzer
Oh, come on now, it's not that bad here.  The weather is nice, and, ummmm, well,  did I mention the weather?


Tee-Hee.... 8)...!

I'm afraid that the thought of spending my whole life talking like a Texan cowboy, an Alabama bum, a Guantanamo guard, a US Marine, an LAPD Traffic Cop, George W. Bush, (or, if I was a girl, like Dolly Parton), fills me with absolute dread..... 8)...!

I love Americans, I really do, just as long as I can't hear them speak.... ;D...!

Yee-Haaaa.....!
(see what I mean?).... ;)...!

LOL...!

Paul...with an English accent.... ;D...!

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:26 pm
by TacitBlue
Aww, come on, not all of us 'merican fellers tawk like that. It's only people from Saint Lewis... ;)

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:41 pm
by Fozzer
Aww, come on, not all of us 'merican fellers tawk like that. It's only people from Saint Lewis... ;)


LOL... ;D...!

American Accents....

It's a funny old do, but I can tolerate the (up-market) male accents from the Northern States....
...but the further one goes "Down South" the more they make me want to curl my toes up...
..and as for Women's accents...well....did I mention Dolly Parton?.... :o...!

Actually, I get the San Francisco streaming video news sent to me every day from Kron4, and that is a good example of an acceptable American accent (providing that I mute the Women's voices)....LOL... ;D...!
...the New Yorkers are OK as well, you will be pleased to know...;)...!

Paul... ;)... ;D...!

P.S. ...there you go.... "Saint Lewis"....that says it all....LOL....;D...!

Re: Mid Air Birth

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:14 pm
by gijake

LOL... ;D...!
America Accents....
It's a funny old do, but I can tolerate the (up-market) male accents from the Northern States....
...but the further one goes "Down South" the more they make me want to curl my toes up...
..and as for Women's accents...well....did I mention Dolly Parton?.... :o...!
Actually, I get the San Francisco streaming video news sent to me every day from Kron4, and that is a good example of an acceptable American accent (providing that I mute the Women's voices)....LOL... ;D...!
...the New Yorkers are OK as well, you will be pleased to know...;)...!
Paul... ;)... ;D...!
P.S. ...there you go.... "Saint Lewis"....that says it all....LOL....;D...!

Well, there you go, I happen to be from the North East, but now I live way down in Florida.  Luckly, most people who live here moved from somwhere else, so there is a large population sans southern accent.