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Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:45 pm
by Foxtrot Sport
With the iFly 747 coming out, I've found that I'm in need of a little training.  I've heard you guys oozing with happiness about the now working FMC, and TCAS, etc.  I've come to realize that I have NO CLUE as to what you are talking about.  All I know is that the FMC is that cool looking computer thing with the black and green screen.

So, we've come to my question.  Does anybody have a full crash course on how to fly a 747 effectively, and realisticly.  I would use the provided reference of Flight Simulator, but I'm guessing it isn't thorough enough, as the default 747 has nothing even close to this new iFly 747.  Thanks in advance.

-HF

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:52 pm
by Woodlouse2002
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So, we've come to my question.

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:53 pm
by Craig.
When flying straight and level, push the stick forwards and wait for the ground to hit the plane. Congratulations. You've crashed. :)

LMAO, wondered who would be first.  ;D

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:59 pm
by cspyro21
Takeoff, use ATC to climb to your assigned FL, apply AP, and when ATC tell you to turn to a different heading etc., use the AP to do so, and let the AP fly most of the flight until you are on finals.

Well, that's how I fly civils anyway :P ;D ;D
Cheers  ;)

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:58 pm
by Ecko
When I had to learn about the PMDG 737 and 747, I found the manuals very handy, lots of reading though. :o

When I had to learn about the Level-D 767, I used the real life Boeing 757/767 CBT (Computer Based Training)- VERY HANDY! And the manual of course.

The Flight1 Super80, still learning! :P

The iFly manuals I haven't really looked that much into- As it's kind of the same as the PMDG 744, I think! ;D

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:37 pm
by Foxtrot Sport
Takeoff, use ATC to climb to your assigned FL, apply AP, and when ATC tell you to turn to a different heading etc., use the AP to do so, and let the AP fly most of the flight until you are on finals.

Yeah, that's what I do.  However, with the new "FMC" stuff coming out, I figured I should get with the program.

And, I think I've got this so-called 'crash' thing down
;).

-HF

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:09 am
by TSC.
And, I think I've got this so-called 'crash' thing down

Yeah, you have to get 'down' to crash - otherwise it doesn't work.

;D

TSC.

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:40 pm
by legoalex2000
or you could realize the true art of flying, "throw yourself at the ground and miss" ;D ;D

:)ramos - who has yet to master "flying" :P

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:41 pm
by Fozzer
The crash course always results in the inevitable fatality...:'(
Not to be recommended if at all possible... ;)...!

Paul...flying course is good....crashing course is bad...

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:23 pm
by Foxtrot Sport
So does all this banter mean nobody has good suggestions?

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:56 pm
by Woodlouse2002
So does all this banter mean nobody has good suggestions?

Pretty much sums up how good we are at flying really and why we've never progessed further than sims. ;D

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:21 am
by flyboy 28
Pretty much sums up how good we are at flying really and why we've never progessed further than sims. ;D


The truth. :)

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:36 pm
by Fly2e
Nexus seams to really know how to use it.
I have PM'ed him about this thread.
Maybe he can enlighten you.  8)

Dave

Re: Crash Course

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:28 pm
by Nexus
Well, I saw Dave's PM  8)

The FMC is your best friend (aside from the blond flight attendant)
It keep tracks of a huge navigation database: departure procedures and approaches, aswell as your current route. The FMC is linked with the Autopilot, flight director, autothrottle and the IRS. They inturn form the FMS (flight management system)

However the FMC also knows the capabilities and LIMITATIONS of your aircraft, so it can plan your flight and give you the most economic values. To accomplish this, you have to feed the FMC with some  parameters.

What the FMC want to know is this (chronologic order, corresponding FMC buttons in bracketts)

- Current position (MENU/FMC/POS REF)
- Route, origin and destination airport (RTE)
-Take off runway and the SID (DEP ARR)
- Routing; waypoints enroute (RTE or LEGS)
- TOGW, ZFW, Fuel, fuel reserves, cruise altitude etc (MENU/FMC/PERF INIT)
- Thrust derate (N1 limit)
- Takeoff performance; Flaps, v-speeds, cg and trim (MENU/FMC/TAKE OFF)

Now this is done step by step so when you have executed one step, you'll automaticly be presented with an option to jump directly to the next step by clicking LSK 6R (Line select key 6 right), but I posted their complete path if you get lost on the way :)