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Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:24 am
by Felix/FFDS
It might not be a good idea if you're in China...


SHANGHAI, China -- Exam cheats, think again -- instead of four years of college, you might get seven years in prison.

The government is considering a law calling for sentences of three to seven years for particularly egregious cases of exam fraud, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Thursday.

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:25 am
by Hagar
Darned good idea that. They ought to introduce it here. That would sort out the wood from the trees. ;)

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:31 am
by Romulus111VADT
Definitely needs to be put into law in the US!!!  ::)

;D

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:24 pm
by Sytse
I have never cheated in school and I think no-one (how do you spell tht anyway?) should. This is a bit severe though...

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:39 pm
by ozzy72
This is a bit severe though

Why? Cheating means you are getting qualifications you haven't earned which you could then use to get a job you can't handle which could lead to trouble!
Take for example an architect who doesn't know his sums building a bridge that collapses killing 100 people... would you object then if you were one of the relatives of those people?
Personally I'm in favour of it, here we expel students cheating in exams.

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:49 pm
by Hagar
Unfortunately it's not always the students here. It's not unknown for some teachers to help their students pass exams, not by teaching but by cheating. This sorry state of affairs is no doubt caused by the rating system used to judge the schools. The better the pass rate, the higher the school is on the government lists. ::)

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:53 pm
by ozzy72
Ah the great money matter as usual ::)
I think governments should get their heads out of their bottoms and actually try a dose of reality once in a while to see how things are for people who don't get zillions a year for doing bog-all (apart from blowing hot air)......
You should hear my mum on visits to hospitals she has worked in by various health ministers! I never knew she knew, let alone could use, those words :o Her observation that those were the only times the cleaners did their job properly (and they got paid more than a nurse) was never lost on me...

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:04 pm
by Sytse
Why? Cheating means you are getting qualifications you haven't earned which you could then use to get a job you can't handle which could lead to trouble!
Take for example an architect who doesn't know his sums building a bridge that collapses killing 100 people... would you object then if you were one of the relatives of those people?
Personally I'm in favour of it, here we expel students cheating in exams.


Yeah, but don't throw 'em in prison! Just...chop off their arms or something... :P

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:17 pm
by Romulus111VADT

Yeah, but don't throw 'em in prison! Just...chop off their arms or something... :P


Yea, like hang them by the nads and beat them like a pinata..... ;D...we need a proper evil grin.
This will do....Image

Of course this would pose a problem if the cheaters a female.... ;)

;D

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:17 pm
by Craig.
I love China sometimes ;D
Mark when I was in school the only time the teachers did their jobs properly, was when we had OFSTED(or whatever it is) doing their inspections. It was amazing how helpful friendly and generally competant they were those weeks. It was always nice to know they could do the job properly if they could be bothered. Also amazing how clean it was to. ::)

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:32 pm
by flyboy 28
My school is so lax when it comes to cheating.

No kidding, I seriously think that the teachers don't even care if you do. Now, I was born and raised a Christian so I would never think of cheating, but it just angers me so much sometimes.

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:56 pm
by Saitek
Never cheated. My results are from my own hard work and that only.
I am rather a strict traditional conservative by no stretch of the imagination, but that punishment is downright stupid.

Mark, an architect has to spend 7 years at uni (one of my friends is at Edinburgh doing it)- I doubt most cheaters could endure that. ::)

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:00 pm
by Katahu
I never cheated at all. I hate cheating.

My classmates [aka: half-witted monkeys] back in high school always cheated. However, non of those cheaters managed to get away at all.

Thank god that my teachers [however boring they may be] are tough when it comes to cheaters and they would never give in to litigation. Unfortunately, it's too d-am bad that such people are in such limited supply. :-/

Therefore, the rest of the monkey population would manage to get scholarships, but can never figure out what the h377 they would study for in college. :-/

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:02 pm
by beaky
I'm no angel, but I never cheated in school. School cheaters often get rapidly left behind in the adult world, when they're finally really tested... although some people seem to do OK, from what I've seen.
It's not for me, though- there are things more important than what's called "success"... :)

Re: Do you Cheat in School?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:20 pm
by Hagar
Cheating is big business now. With a large percentage of marks being awarded for coursework it's very easy on the Internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/251419.stm
We couldn't do that in my day as coursework was not taken into account. Everything was written by hand in the examination room. If you didn't know the answers you failed. Simple as that.

I've also read about teachers giving their students sample answers to exams. All they had to do was copy them & hand them in. This was discovered when comparing answers from students attending the same school. They were identical. This is more than cheating, it's organised fraud on a large scale. If that doesn't deserve punishment I don't know what does.