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Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fiction?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:03 am
by Fozzer
Hi All...!

Here is a fascinating site....>>>

http://science.howstuffworks.com/luminol4.htm

In between looking up some instructions for the manufactore of a nuculear bomb....I thought about "Luminol"....

That's the stuff that you see CSI's spraying around crime scenes on the 'tele, looking for traces of blood...

Is it for real?...or just in the writers imagination?

The above link will tell you all about it....
...and also, how to make a nuclear bomb in your garden shed...
LOL... ;D...!

Paul...Final instructions: Just set the timer now... 8)...!
LOL... ;D...!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:19 am
by ozzy72
Luminol is a real thing Paul, it has been in use by police forensic teams since the early 90s if memory servers, and it works just like on the show ;)
Clever stuff science, bet there are no marmalade bomb plans yet ('cos I've not finished drawing them) ;D

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:43 am
by Fozzer
Luminol is a real thing Paul, it has been in use by police forensic teams since the early 90s if memory servers, and it works just like on the show ;)
Clever stuff science, bet there are no marmalade bomb plans yet ('cos I've not finished drawing them) ;D


...do you know what tho'...

I still have my doubts that a CFI bloke can find a strand of my crinkly pu hair on a sheet, in a Hotel somewhere, and stick it in a test tube, add some "stuff" to it, do a DNA test on it, and convince the Jury that I am the criminal who delighted the young lady at the time, and deserve to be hung by the neck until I am dead....   :o...!
LOL...!

Paul...

Judge:
"Fozzer. Have you anything to say before I pronounce sentence"
Me:
"Yes, your Honour. She enjoyed it"... ;)...!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:46 am
by SilverFox441
I still have my doubts that a CFI bloke can find a strand of my crinkly pu hair on a sheet, in a Hotel somewhere, and stick it in a test tube, add some "stuff" to it, do a DNA test on it, and convince the Jury that I am the criminal who delighted the young lady at the time, and deserve to be hung by the neck until I am dead.... :o ...!


I'm confused Foz, is that a comment on the science...or yourself.  ;D

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:50 am
by AlphaBravo
Im starting a Forensic Science Course at college which should be really intresting but the teacher said the real thing isnt like CSI  :( but never mind....


Craig

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:27 am
by Fozzer

I'm confused Foz, is that a comment on the science...or yourself.  ;D


Hi Silver...

The case is coming up next week.
...watch the CNN news channel....

LOL... ;D...!

Paul....pleading temporary insanity...Your Honour... ::)... ;)... ;D...!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:49 am
by ozzy72
pleading temporary insanity

More like permanent perversion ;D
So what will CNN be calling you Paul? The Pace Maker Pervert? ;D

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:06 am
by SilverFox441
The Pace Maker Pervert?


OMG!

That's shocking!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:29 am
by Fozzer
I can murder a pint of John Smith's every day...
...and get away with it... ;)...!
LOL...!

Paul... 8)...!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:22 pm
by Saitek
Steady, steady - you don't want to give the wrong impressions Paul!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:15 pm
by loomex
it is my understanding that almost everything seen on CSI is fact. It is either currently in use in places or it is an emerging science or method about to come out. Sometimes they do stretch it a bit, but who cares, its a great show(s)

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:28 pm
by MattNW
I don't know about the science used on the show but if they handled their questioning and investigation tactics in real life the way they do on the show no wonder so many criminals get away.

One episode that I remember:

Cop: Can you get me a warrant?

DA: On what evidence

Cop: You get me an arrest warrant and I'll get you the evidence.

WHAT!!!  :o :o

The system just doesn't work like that. At least not in this country.

If you want to see real police work watch COPS. If you want intertainment watch CSI.

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:24 am
by Fozzer
Do you know what...!

...all this DNA stuff sometimes frightens me.

Imagine...

You are arrested on suspicion of committing a very serious crime based upon, for example, a strand of hair found at the scene of the crime...!

Now you know perfectly well that you had absolutely nothing to do with this crime, but are un-able to produce a convincing alibi for the time that the crime occurred...(you were asleep in bed, on your own, miles from the scene).

The case comes before the Court...

The prosecution claims that you are guilty, based upon DNA evidence found in a strand of hair at the scene of the crime.

Now....

The Jury, who know little, if anything, about DNA, or the reliability of DNA evidence, are bound to find you guilty, without question, of the crime, because the prosecution instruct them that DNA evidence is infallible...

What chance have you got to escape the long drop...?
Think about it...
...when that knock comes on the door...

Let's just hope that it never befalls you...or me...

Cheers all...!

Paul....going for a big shave...all over... ;)... ;D...!

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:34 am
by ozzy72
Actually funny you should mention that Paul the guy that invented DNA profiling has now called for tighter levels of testing with more matched markers to make it more accurate.

Re: Crime Scene Investigation, (CSI), Fact or Fict

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:13 am
by Omag 2.0
You will not squeez yourself out of this one Mark! I've hired a gorgeous female to retrieve some of Fozzers DNA in curly-form. retrieval device... a set of tweezers... target... anywhere from the body. Bikini-wax mr. Fozzer?

I Myself on the otherhand, have retrieved a saliva-sample from the merlin-engine you've "hugged" on your last trip to the UK.

Now we'll finally find out the truth! Is Fozzer the biological father or mother of Ozzy? BwhahaBWAHAHAGAAAAA!