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Oh No...Not Again

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:38 pm

This comes with age...do not worry...it will happen to you all ::)

I am the type of person who goes around the house/yard humming and singing little ditties :).

Now most of the time I start off with the right words and then for some reason I start making up words and lyrics.

That really drives the old girl nuts ;D.

But, it is because I have forgotten the words so I just make them up.

NOW to the point of this thread.....there is always a point...right?

Well you have all seen the movies "ZULU" or "ZULU DAWN" as I think that is what the second one was called.

In the movie "ZULU"  the British troops were singing a hymn at least I think it was a hymn.
I do think one of the lines was..."spear points gleaming" or something along that line.

That line has been going off in the back of my mind for two days now and I can't get a grip on the hymn.  I do not dare ask the old girl as she will think I am off my rocker...finally lost all my marbles...etc. :P

Does anyone remember that hymn?

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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Hagar » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:05 pm

I belive the hymn is the well-known Welsh march 'Men of Harlech'. Ivor Emmanuel, the famous Welsh operatic singer was in the film Zulu.

(It should be noted that this is one of several known sets of lyrics to Men of Harlech.)

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Men of Harlech, march to glory, victory is hov'ring o're ye,
Bright-eyed freedom stands before ye, hear ye not her call?
At your sloth she seems to wonder, rend the sluggish bonds asunder,
Let the warcry's deaf'ning thunder ev'ry foe appal.

Echoes loudly waking hill and valley shaking:
Till the sound spreads wide around, the Saxon's courage breaking:

Your foes on ev'ry side assailing, forward press with heart unfailing,
Till invaders learn with quailing, Cambria ne'er can yield.



Thou who noble Cambria wrongest know that freedom's cause is strongest
Freedom's courage lasts the longest, ending but with death!

Freedom countless hosts can scatter, freedom stoutest mail can shatter,
Freedom thickest walls can batter, fate is in her breath.



See they now are flying! Dead are heaped with dying!
Over might hath triumphed right, our land to foes denying:

Upon their soil we never sought them, love of conquest hither brought them,
But this lesson, we have taught them, "Cambria ne'er can yield."


http://www.castlewales.com/menhar.html
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Romulus111VADT » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:06 pm

Maybe this is it?

Glyndwr, see thy comet flaming,
Hear a heavenly voice declaiming,
To the world below proclaiming,
Cambria shall be free:
While thy star on high is beaming,
Soldiers from the mountains teeming,
With their spears and lances gleaming,
Come to follow thee.
Hear the trumpet sounding
While the steeds are bounding,
On the gale from hill and dale,
The war-cry is resounding:
Warriors famed in song and story,
Coming from the mountains hoary,
Rushing to the fields of glory,
Eager for the fray:
To the valley wending,
Hearths and homes defending,
With their proud and valiant prince,
From ancient kings descending;
See the mighty host advancing,
Sunbeams on their helmets dancing,
On his gallant charger prancing,
Glyndwr leads the way.


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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Hagar » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Take your pick. http://ingeb.org/songs/menofhar.html

Now you can really confuse your old girl. :D

PS. [i]Movie trivia: in the 1963 movie "Zulu!" starring Michael Caine, the Welsh troops sing yet another version of this song, just before the final charge mounted by the Zulu warriors.

Men of Harlech stop your dreaming
Can't you see their spear points gleaming
See their warrior pennants streaming
To this battle field

Men of Harlech stand ye steady
It cannot be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Stand and never yield
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Saitek » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:27 pm

I love that one. My sisters have it on CD. Cool.  8)
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Postby Scorpiоn » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:49 pm

Whenever I think of British tunes in war I remember of Tipperary in "The Bridge on the River Kwai".  Jolly little tune.

Even better is there is a version performed by the Red Army Chorus. :D Listening to it now! :)
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:04 pm

Thanks everyone...that is great.

Funny how something gets stuck in the back of your mind and just nags at you. ::)

Now I will have something else to sing when I am on my way to the barn to stand in the corner. ;DLOL

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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Hagar » Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:16 pm

Well we got there in the end. :D

Whenever I think of British tunes in war I remember of Tipperary in "The Bridge on the River Kwai".  Jolly little tune.

"It's a long way to Tipperary" was popular with British troops in WWI although it's an Irish song. The "River Kwai March" is another famous march, 'Colonel Bogey', usually sung with alternative lyrics.
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Re: Oh No...Not Agai

Postby H » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:49 am

"It's a long way to Tipperary" was popular with British troops in WWI although it's an Irish song.
Learned this one in Boys' Chorus.

Hagar wrote:
The "River Kwai March" is another famous march, 'Colonel Bogey', usually sung with alternative lyrics.
Learned to whistle with this one -- not that I learned so well ::).
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby ozzy72 » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:41 am

I've got Zulu on DVD but you'll have to hang on until I can watch it to get the words down for you ;)
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby H » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:59 am

Actually, I had both of them some where/when. Zulu was the 1st produced (by @ 20 years, I think) but the events in Zulu Dawn happened 1st. The guns the Zulus were using in Zulu came from the battle depicted in Zulu Dawn.
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Fozzer » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:09 am

...'cos I'm always in a happy mood, I wander around the house, town, shops, supermarket, public transport, my motor-bike, cooking my dins, mowing the grass, havin' a dump, etc....singing or humming to myself.... ;D...!

This always attracts the attention of anyone nearby, and guarantees to bring a smile to their faces....
...and, I guess, puts them in a happy mood as well... ;D...!

Fozzers good deed for the day.... ;)...!
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Paul...a picture of happiness... ;)... 8)... ;D...!

...sometimes, passers-by automatically drop a few pennies into my cap....
...helps with the shopping bill... ;)...!
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Hagar » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:22 am

We learned 'Men of Harlech' at primary school. There was a big Welsh community in Lancing where I was brought up. They were mostly ex-miners working at the big railway carriage works, until it was closed down by the infamous Dr. Bloomin' Beeching in the 60s putting at least one person from almost every family in Lancing on the dole. That man was responsible for ruining the British railway system at a stroke & I've never forgiven him. >:( Sorry but it makes me so mad to think of it I had to vent my spleen.

'Men of Harlech' sung by a full Welsh male voice choir (as in the film) is one of the most stirring things I've ever heard.
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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Fozzer » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:37 am

..... the infamous Dr. Bloomin' Beeching in the 60s putting at least one person from almost every family in Lancing on the dole. That man was responsible for ruining the British railway system at a stroke & I've never forgiven him. >:( Sorry but it makes me so mad to think of it I had to vent my spleen......


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That subject is worthy of a seperate Thread involving we British subjects....
It brings tears to my eyes every time I see an abandoned, overgrown railway cutting... :'(...!

Cheers Doug... ;)...!

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Re: Oh No...Not Again

Postby Rifleman » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:34 am

And here, all this time I always thought it was .............


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