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the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:56 pm
by Craig.
Well as you know recently it was suggested in 5 years or so that the UK would introduce a new pay as you go road usage charge. with costs of upto a

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:09 pm
by 4_Series_Scania
I'll believe it when I see it.

Govornments don't like to upset the general public too much, I think they'll soon find a reason to shelve the idea, the closer the election gets, the more it'll be forgotten.

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:10 am
by eno
I'll believe it when I see it.

Govornments don't like to upset the general public too much, I think they'll soon find a reason to shelve the idea, the closer the election gets, the more it'll be forgotten.



I hope they do ......... I've always said the best and only way is to scrap road tax and add the shortfall onto the price of petrol that way everyone pays and you pay according to your usage.
BUT HEY ....... they already do that 80% tax on fuel and less than 20% of that actually used to improve either the roads or public transport.

MOTORIST = CASH COW

It's not going to change wether it's fuel prices, Road tax, Speeding and Parking fines.

I think the Green Movement want us back in the dark ages where no one travelled more than a few miles a day on foot or by horse. After that they would complain that horses constituted a threat to the enviroment and would tax them according to the amount of hay they eat and manure they produce.
The communists would love it as it restricted movment and people would have to pay huge amounts to travel anywhere outwith their own areas.

Can you see where I'm going.....

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:34 am
by Hagar
I've always said the best and only way is to scrap road tax and add the shortfall onto the price of petrol that way everyone pays and you pay according to your usage.

Exactly. I pointed out in another thread the other day that this could be done immediately & would cost nothing to implement. These people with their crazy ideas must live on a different planet to the rest of us.

MOTORIST = CASH COW  

It's not going to change wether it's fuel prices, Road tax, Speeding and Parking fines.

If they really want to reduce road traffic congestion they MUST improve public transport & make it reliable, convenient & most of all, cheaper than the alternative - not more expensive. Surely any idiot can see that. ::)

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:52 am
by denishc
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.....This was all in an effort to get people to use public transport more often at peak times.
Well today on the news comes the report that train companies are going to increase their peak time prices by as much as

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:56 am
by Saitek
It is simple. If public transport is even Reasonable I will use it and stop the car. But to pay heaps upon heaps over what it cosrts in the car for an unreliable, inefficient and poor service is just unacceptable and I won't do it!

It is crazy taxing the motorist to tears to make him use public transport until they get the stupid public services done first.  

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:00 am
by Whitey
I hate when

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:42 am
by Saitek
The principle is good - very good - but the circumstances in Britain mean that it is not workable or fair and would kill the working class/poor and just be a sting in the back side/minor inconvenience for the rich.

Re: the new road price scheme(UK)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:29 am
by eno
Road pricing works fine in big cities where there is a reliable public transport system as an alternative ..... Glasgow is a case in point  the buses there are fantastic ....... 24 hour service on the main routes prices are fairly cheap and it was, a few years ago, the only city to increase public transport usage. Why ......... because the main bus company invested in new stock and implimented what is known as the Overground system, with maps similar to the Underground in London.
Main routes have a less than 5 minute service interval at peak times ..... and all routes interlink and in the evenings the service interval for outlying areas is 15-30 mins going to an hourly service into the city from the more populated areas after midnight.

It works ....... and most of it done without government interference.