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Just wondering if anyone caught the seconds from diaster on History I think last night 8 things that normally doesnt go wrong went wrong at tha same time I never heard of the 2 747's crashing on the runway till last night.

That remains the deadliest aircraft accident in history.  It's an absolutely fascinating and tragic event.  I didn't see it last night, but rather I saw it a while back.  Great show.

Ive never heard of that 747 thing, sounds interesting. man I wish I had the History channel... not cable, just History, I can do without all of those other worthless channels.

Is that the one with the KLM 747 crashing into another 747 during take-off in foggy circumstances? Sad story it was!

Unfortunately, many of us still rememeber the headlines in the news stories, and not as an historical anecdote.

Unfortunately, many of us still rememeber the headlines in the news stories, and not as an historical anecdote.

Aye.

yea it was the klm and pan am at  Tenerife Airport Santa Cruz, Spain not sure when but I think about 1977 or so.

Date of Accident: 27 March 1977  
Airline: KLM Royal Dutch Airlines    
Aircraft: Boeing 747-206B    
Location: Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain  
Registration: PH-BUF    
Flight Number: 4805  
Fatalities: 583  
Engine Manufacturer: Pratt & Whitney  
Engine Model: JT9D-7W  
Year of Delivery: 1971  

Accident Description: The aircraft collided with a Pan American Boeing 747 on the runway while attempting to takeoff. After diverting from their original destination of Las Palmas due to a bomb threat, both aircraft parked on the congested ramp at Los Rodeos Airport. During the wait, the KLM aircraft's crew decided to refuel the aircraft. During the refuelling process, the airport at Las Palmas reopened, and the Pan American crew attempted to move toward the runway. The KLM aircraft was blocking their aircraft in, however, so the Pan Am crew was forced to wait until KLM had finished refuelling. After the refuelling was complete, the KLM aircraft was instructed to back-taxi on runway 30, turn at the end, and wait for departure. The Pan American crew was instructed to follow KLM, but turn left off the runway on a taxiway before reaching the end of the runway. As the KLM aircraft turned to depart on runway 12, its Captain, Jakob van Zaanten immediately powered up for takeoff. The First Officer corrected him saying 'no, we don't have our air traffic control clearance yet.' The Captain responded with 'I know that, you call for it.' As the First Officer was copying the clearance, which told the crew what route to fly, but did not give permission to take off, the Captain again initiated takeoff. The Pan Am 747 crew was inching through the thick fog looking for their assigned runway turnoff, saw the shaking lights of the KLM aircraft at near takeoff speed through the fog, and applied full power in an attempt to clear the runway. Just after rotation, the KLM aircraft struck the Pan American plane just behind the cockpit, climbed to a height of 100 feet, and crashed. With a total of 583 killed, this accident remains the deadliest accident in aviation history.

So the KLM captain disregarded all protocol on the basis of saving how many seconds....  :-/

Holy S! That is why you listen to ATC!  :-/

[quote]That remains the deadliest aircraft accident in history.

I tried to TiVo it, but it didn't record. Out of space  :'(

The klm 747 when he saw the pan am He tried to pull up but becuase He refueled there instead of his destination airport he was too heavy plus that was a regional airport and no ground radar and had like 4-5 heavys deverted there. Cuase the airport was for smaller planes ATC didnt anticipate the 747 wouldnt be able to make the turn at the 3rd exit becuase it cut back the other way. Also according to the flight recorders ATC told KLM to hold, But pan am keyed the radio at the same time and said there still on the runway So the KLM didnt hear eithier one. They didnt have hetrodine blocks or whatever its called like they do now. But when the pan-am saw them coming they hit the throttles full to get off the runway had they not the KLM would have cleared they only missed clearing by 10 feet.

I didnt know it was on till I already missed about half.

[quote]Holy S! That is why you listen to ATC!