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Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:28 pm
by Ace_777
Well it was something that Hagar said in the post called "the latest craze". It was shocking when Hagar said blind people had been physically hurt by young thugs and this is true fact and happens everyday, the police in your area...........are they doing enough ??
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:31 pm
by Jimbo
I live in a small area and the police is very good round here, everyone looks out for one another
Jimbo
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:45 pm
by Woodlouse2002
I personally can't complain. Except when they have a crack down on underage drinking when all the pubs spasm and demand ID from everyone and everything.

Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:48 pm
by Hagar
Except for traffic cops I never see any police in my area. There aren't enough ordinary bobbies on the beat around these days. Nuff said.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:55 pm
by Craig.
Why do you think they are pushing these commercials for voulenteers. Being a cop here is bad enough while being paid. Why would you do it for free.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:15 pm
by ChuckMajik
Seeing how you so graciously forgot to disallow multiple choices.
I took the liberty of selecting all available options.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:39 pm
by beefhole
Meh, the cops in my area are pretty bored, meaning two things-there's very little crime (although there is some) and they constantly hassle teenagers ::)
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:15 pm
by TacitBlue
people complain about the cops in my area, but I think they do a fine job. we dont have many seriouse crimes like murders and rapes, but when we do, they are right on it, and always catch them.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:55 pm
by RichieB16
I don't think that the Police are doing a bad job here, they are doing the best they can.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:58 am
by Hagar
I think this depends on where you live. Once upon a time in Britain, all police officers had to go through the ranks. Start from the bottom & spend time (I think it was 2 years) as an ordinary bobby on the beat before specialising in other areas. Some might spend their whole career as a Sergeant in the local police station while others became detectives, traffic cops, chief superintendents whatever. This meant that every single police officer had a personal knowledge of policing at ground level.
When they changed this to fast track entry for academically qualified candiates straight out of university it ruined the whole basis of the police as we know it in this country. From what I can make out many senior officers now have no personal knowledge of life in the real world. I know from my own experience that this doesn't work in a private company so I can't see how it's any different for the police.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:15 am
by ATI_7500
Seeing how you so graciously forgot to disallow multiple choices.
I took the liberty of selecting all available options.
Capital idea!

Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:45 am
by Romulus111VADT
Bet we hear from the Deputy on this topic.....

Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:51 am
by ozzy72
The police in Hungary couldn't catch a cold ::)
And frankly they're so bent they make a corkscrew look straight

Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:07 am
by Spitty42
Well New zealand police have up't their anti and now are everywhere. I notice them more when i drive with passengers, becasue legally i am not alowwed to have them yet and for each passenger it is $400 a piece, so i am a little on the edge sometimes.
Police in NZ seem to be doing their jobs at the moment, although they can be asses at times!!!
Cheers, Chewy.
Re: Do you think the police are doing enough?

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Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:59 am
by Smoke2much
I have to disagree with a point you've made there Doug. The fast track system for graduates has been slowed down somewhat in the last few years. It used to be the case that a graduate would leave Hendon as an Inspector, now they leave as a PC and if they pass the interviews, exams and performance reviews then they are promoted on a fast track.
I agree that there is a hideous lack of "Beat Coppers" about. Part of the problem is that in many areas they have become a target and therefore have to travel in two's. In effect you would have to almost double the number of policemen that we have to see any benefit on the streets. The country could not afford to do this as they cost so much money. I also don't see that this would reduce crime. Numbers of convicted prisoners when plotted on a graph against the population of the country show that crime has not actually risen by that much in the last 50 years. The media coverage of crime has risen and public awareness along with it.
I appreciate that convicted prisoners is probably not the best indicator but it should be remembered that there are a large number of crimes now that didn't exist 30 or 40 years ago.
Joy riding, spousal assault, car stereo theft, mobile phone theft, happy slapping, internet offences. The list is endless. I happen to think that life in this country has not radically worsened in some ways for hundreds of years. In fact I think it has improved.
Take sex crimes as an example. Following the Jack the Ripper killings in Whitehall in 1889 a survey on prostitution was carried out in London. The Victorian middle classes wanted to understand the scope of the problem. It was found that approaching 30% of the working class women in London were, or had been prostitutes. In addition to this the average starting age for a girl on the streets was 12 years old.
With a modern diet and standard of living most 12 year old girls are approaching or in puberty. In 1889 the average age of the menarch was 16 years. If there hadn't been a market on the streets for these girls they wouldn't have made a living and wouldn't have done it, but the perception is that sexual offences against children are a modern phenomenon. The only thing that is modern is the internet business side.
To sum up my, humble, opinion: Nothing changes, more police won't make any difference. The theives will still steal, the murderers will still murder and the perverts will still be perverted.
Will