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Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:40 am
by Fly2e
I though some of you would get a kick out of this!  ;)

LONDON - In the land of Shakespeare, punctuation faced extinction until writer Lynne Truss came to the rescue with a clutch of carefully placed commas and colons.

Taking a zero tolerance approach to grammatical lapses, she wrote a sprightly guide to punctuation, "Eats, shoots and leaves," that has sold more than half a million copies in Britain alone and soared to the top of bestseller lists.

Now, honing her crusading zeal over misplaced apostrophes, Truss is off to the United States to ensure transatlantic tidiness reigns supreme on the printed page.

She fervently believes the Internet, e-mails and text messaging have widened people's horizons, but treat punctuation like unnecessary linguistic baggage.

Truss, who says she is a stickler for accuracy and not an obsessive pedant, thinks the English have lost touch with the language they invented and gave to the world.

But she will not cast the first stone at the Americans, often mocked by the haughty British for bastardizing their mother tongue.

"American education seems to take grammar quite seriously," she told Reuters before leaving on a 10-city, coast-to-coast tour of North America for the launch of the book there next month.
"My sense of it is that British English is worse actually than American English. I think Americans really like rules. I think we in Britain are very slapdash and don't care if we are right or wrong."


PUNCTUATION CAMPAIGN

But Hollywood has certainly enraged Truss, a feisty columnist and broadcaster who would happily reach for her marker pen to put in punctuation where Tinseltown offers none.

"What about that film Two Weeks Notice? Where was the apostrophe?" she asks, enraged that there is no apostrophe at the end of Weeks.

The rise of the manufactured British pop band Hear'Say had her apoplectic with grammatical rage and she rejoiced when "the group thankfully folded within 18 months."

"Valentine's Day was a terrible time for me too," she said. "Only half the shops put the apostrophe in. That was upsetting."

Now it looks like her punctuation campaign could go global.

"The book is out in the Gulf states. There is a separate edition in India. It has done well in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. It does seem to be touching a chord," she said.

"It is an international issue. The Internet is having a big effect on the way people write in every language."

Truss insists that punctuation vigilantes are not nerds who should really get out more.

"We are like the little boy in The Sixth Sense who can see dead people, except that we can see dead punctuation," she said.

For, as she explains in "Eats, Shoots and Leaves," published in Britain by Profile Books, a misplaced comma can indeed be deadly.

The book's title stems from the joke about a panda who walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots into the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter as the panda heads for the exit. The animal produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and all is revealed.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Dave  ;D

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:00 pm
by IcedFoxtrotter
RUN!!! THE BRITISH ARE COMMING! THE BRITISH ARE COMMING!Image ;D Image
Oh the humanity! Send out the children, don't hide them! Make them learn.

This is nice to see, as many kids can't write english to save their lives. >:( ::)

Edit: Or speak it either for that matter. ::)

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:13 pm
by ozzy72
I believe this book was a bestseller in Britain over Christmas ;D
Personally if I wish to confuse any speakers of other versions of English, e.g. American, Australian, Welsh etc then I just switch to good old Cockney Rhyming Slang. Unfortunately the wife is beginning to recognise some of the expressions now :o :P :-[

Ozzy

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:22 pm
by Fozzer
Hi Dave...!
An excellent book.
"Eats, Shoots and Leaves," published in Britain by Profile Books

Hagar has it permanently on his desk top.... ;D...!

I love our English language, but it is slowly being modified by immigrants from the Bahamas, etc,.... :'(...!
We now have a "rap" and "mobile text message" society which is getting quite confusing to the original inhabitants of England..!
(A sign of the times, I suppose...)... ::)...!
Hagar hates my "over-use" of apostrophes and commas, but I do use them to make my messages clearer, hopefully... ;)...!

Description:
Panda: Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China, eats shoots and leaves.  

...any better...?

Cheers all... ;D...!

Paul.

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:26 pm
by Felix/FFDS
Description:
Panda: Large black-and-white bear-like mammal native, to China, eats shoots, and leaves.

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:54 pm
by Fozzer
[quote]
Description:
Panda: Large black-and-white bear-like mammal native, to China, eats shoots, and leaves.

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:17 pm
by Hagar
An excellent book.
"Eats, Shoots and Leaves," published in Britain by Profile Books

Hagar has it permanently on his desk top.... ;D...!

I haven't laid eyes on it Foz but I was thinking of treating you to a copy. :P ;D

From the reviews I've read this one seems a better choice. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141001356/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/202-4661965-9504622
It is nearly 20 years since Bill Bryson first penned his deliciously witty paean to precision Troublesome Words. Now he has revised it and 60 per cent of the content is new so it's well worth another browse and a place on the desk corner of anyone who likes words and who wants to get things right.
Once a sub-editor at The Times, Bryson is irresistibly drawn to knowing that "to flaunt" means to display ostentatiously but "to flout" means to treat with contempt. Or that a straitjacket may be straight but its name means that its occupant is confined and restricted--in straitened circumstances, perhaps. And can you explain the difference between a Creole and a Pidgin or between egoism and egotism? If not consult Bryson. Then you'll be able to. There's no pedantry or pomposity in Bryson's writing. But he argues: "Just as we all agree that clarity is better served if 'cup' represents a drinking vessel and 'cap' something you put on your head, so too I think the world is a fractionally better place if we agree to preserve a distinction between 'its' and 'it's', between 'I lay down the law' and 'I lie down to sleep', between 'imply' and 'infer' and countless others."

Bryson modestly jokes that this alphabetically arranged book could be subtitled "Even More Things in English Usage That the Author Wasn't Entirely Clear about Until Quite Recently". If only most of us were sure about a fraction of the things Bryson clearly understands very well we might all be more effective writers and speakers.

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:18 pm
by Fly2e
I knew it wouldn't be long until Doug and Fozzer were posting to this thread!!  ;D   ;D

Dave

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:56 pm
by ozzy72
Doug have you read Bill Brysons Mother Tongue? Its excellent!!! I didn't know that William Shakespeare had given us so many everyday words such as eyeball until I read it! Superb.
And if anyone wants to try any of Bills other exellent books I'd heartily recommend Notes From A Small Island and A Walk in the Woods. Both funny and insightful ;)ű

Mark

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:52 pm
by Felix/FFDS

LOL...!

...trubble is, ....it still looks as though that little black and white fluffy bear is still eating bamboo shoots, and then leaving to find another juicy eucalyptus tree.... ;D...!

LOL...LOL...LOL...!

Paul.


Yes, but - Its a mammal native - doesn't necessarily mean it's an "animal" - that first went to China ...



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(missing apostrophe on purpose)

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:03 pm
by IcedFoxtrotter
The though of being old and loosing your mind scares me. Is it inevitable that the old people become senile? ;)

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:42 pm
by Felix/FFDS
The though of being old and loosing your mind scares me. Is it inevitable that the old people become senile? ;)



Goodness, no.  It happens to young people all the time!

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:55 pm
by Wing Nut
Shouldn't that be "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves" with a comma after 'Shoots?'

BTW, While she was at it, she might have taught you guys that it's 'losing,' not 'loosing.'  ;D

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:42 am
by Hagar
Shouldn't that be "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves" with a comma after 'Shoots?'


At the risk of showing myself up it should be "Eats shoots and leaves" in the original context without using a comma at all. This is the point of the joke in the title of the book. This could also be expressed as "Eats: Shoots and leaves".

As Felix points out, placing commas after various words changes the whole meaning of the sentence. Commas and hyphens are often misused. In many cases they are completely unnecessary.

BTW, While she was at it, she might have taught you guys that it's 'losing,' not 'loosing.'  ;D

Apparently the author sticks to punctuation & does not address spelling. This is the subject of the book I recommended, "Troublesome Words" by Bill Bryson, which also covers common punctuation bloomers.

I've decided that I'm wasting my time with Fozzer. ::)
Although seeing common mistakes repeated time after time sometimes makes me cringe in despair it's not my place to correct anyone's spelling or grammar. Mine is not perfect & this is a general discussion forum, not a schoolroom. ;D

Re: Here Comes the Punctuation Vigilante!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:47 am
by Wing Nut
All of this reminds me of a joke I need to post about a Koala and a hooker... ;D