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As a fanatical non-smoker I found this comforting

Eight passengers have been banned for life from flying with low-cost carrier Ryanair "for compromising passenger and crew safety by smoking on board".
Ryanair's communications head Paul Fitzsimmons said: "Passenger and crew safety is our number one priority.
"Smoking during a flight compromises the safety of everyone on board an aircraft and is strictly prohibited."
He went on: "There remains a tiny minority of passengers who stupidly and recklessly persist in endangering the safety of others by smoking on board.
"Ryanair will immediately ban anyone found smoking on board any Ryanair flight and pass the offenders over to the police for prosecution."

Heard the news today, Ozzy.... ...!
Our old mate Will, "Fag-End", Smoke2Much wont be flying by Ryan Air then... ...?

LOL...!

Cheers... ...!

Paul.

ehh, smoking is such a waste, of humans and money,


IF I smoked, I probably wouldn't have money for flight, and other 'evil plans'  ;)

Wow, realy.  I never thought that I would see Ryanair do something right.

I wish restaraunts did the same to smokers - I'm a smoker, but can easily refrain until I'm back in the car/truck even in truckstops(!) I don't smoke.

In fact I wish I did'nt smoke at all

serves them right.

smoking in Australia is not allowed in places where food is consumed and is more than likely going to be banned from Pubs very soon.  it should be flamin' illegal but the only problem is that the government makes too much flippin money out of it.

You know if you sit and look at it the "Smoker" is the greatest minority on earth.
We are banned from everyplace under the sun, there are restrictions placed on "us" that would be against the law to place on anyone else! You can't eat in this resturant if you smoke! But feel free to bring in your screaming misbehaved brats to disturb everyone trying to enjoy a nice peaceful dinner.
Can't smoke in a theater, might bother someone. Hey! are you stupid? Why bring a three year old to the movies?

Can't smoke in a Government building, it might bother someone, well I paid as much for that building as the non-smoker, what makes them better than me? Actually I paid more! I'm taxed for smoking, so I'm actually helping the economy more than them!!!

Can't smoke in a bar, never killed anyone driving home after smoking, but did you read the story in the paper about the drunk driver?
Total stupidity!!
Oh the second hand smoke might kill me, wrong there has been no proven case that second hand smoke killed anyone! If you don't like it leave! I have every right you do to be here, but for some reason because I have a bad habit (and I'm not proud of it) I'm condemmed! Hey did you ever think that that stench pouring off you body is more offensive than my smoke? In a resturant that allows smoking we are trapped in a little glass room, for all to see just like going to a zoo, we are imprisoned for what we do!
Like I said, restrictions against "smokers" are illegal to use on anyone else. And yes I'm talking about Race,Creed,Sex,Religion.
There is a word that describes it, damn what is it? Oh yeah!!  DISCRIMINATION!

Sorry seemed to have taken a stand

I personally don't like breathing smoke, though I can somewhat tollerate better then other people.

My grandmother can't tollerate it at all. She gets asthma attacks and can hardly breathe when around it. She can't go in places like resteraunts, hotels, theaters, ect, unless there are non-smoking areas.

Fretnstuff.......one small point from me....

You have all the right in the world to burn your lungs out or do whatever damage to your body you so please whereever you please and to whatever extent you want, ......but,.............and its only a little "but"..............

You have no right to force your habit upon anyone else in this world, and the only way we can protect the rights of the non-smokers is to ensure there is sufficient clean airspace between the smokers and the clean air breathers.......and this is done by every means at the disposal of those in authority to impose these standards.....

........so if it means that you have to go outside where there are no others to infringe upon, then be our guest......process those noxious clouds to your hearts content and as long as you see fit, before emphysema and whatever other diseases consume your existence on this planet...........

Sorry seemed to have taken a stand  

You have no right to force your habit upon anyone else in this world, and the only way we can protect the rights of the non-smokers is to ensure there is sufficient clean airspace between the smokers and the clean air breathers

I don't force my habit on anyone, and as a matter of fact I respect the "non-smoker" and don't smoke around someone if I know they might be offended. But of course it always comes down to the rights of the "other person" God forgive I should have rights.

so if it means that you have to go outside where there are no others to infringe upon, then be our guest

It is just as easy for the "infringed upon" to step outside too, go ahead go out and take a deep breath of those "noxious" clouds of car exhaust, factory emmissions, and multiple other pollutants that fill the air, killing trees, wildlife, and people (smokers and non)

Sorry seemed too have made a real valid point

Let me just say, I'm a smoker who is not proud of my addiction, and I don't force it on anyone. As a matter of fact I try and encourage people not too even start. I respect others around me by not smoking, be it in a resturant, public building etc. And I do that out of common curtiousy not because I'm not allowed too. Even though my comments might not suggest it I do respect others around me even though they don't respect me and my rights.
The topic started about a airline and I agree that smoking in a airplane isn't right, the non-smoker can't step outside for some "fresh air" , some places are obvious where smoking shouldn't be allowed, hospitals, schools, gas stations etc. But banning it everywhere is not right.
It comes down to: one group of people wanting more rights than the other and that is where the problem lies.
Where one group of people know what is right for all people. Falls directly into the catagory of discrimination and censorship both of which I hate with a passion!
And because of that I  get defensive in my postings which I apologise for.
I'm really a nice person with a bad habit that seems too offend people, now lets look into the bad habits you have, that might offend me.

P.S. Rifleman, when using words like "you", "non-smoker" etc. I wasn't directing any of my comments directly at you but too all people who feel the same way as yourself.

Fretnstuff, regarding your earlier post, Race,Creed,Sex and Religion don't hurt other people (well... religon can hurt people in the case of israel and palestein). Second hand smoke CAN hurt people,

I'm a smoker who is not proud of my addiction, and I don't force it on anyone. As a matter of fact I try and encourage people not too even start. I respect others around me by not smoking, be it in a resturant, public building etc. And I do that out of common curtiousy not because I'm not allowed too. Even though my comments might not suggest it I do respect others around me even though they don't respect me and my rights.

I have to agree there Fret. Being a considerate person I'm well aware that my habit offends others. I would not dream of smoking in the company of non-smokers or while people are eating. Meanwhile, as a smoker I am being victimised with government support. I am Public Enemy #1 & the cause of all the problems in the world. If smoking is so dangerous or unhealthy they should ban it. As Poly points out they won't do that for fear of upsetting their friends the tobacco barons & losing the considerable tax revenue. This is pure hypocrisy. IMHO

There are many things that offend me, the effects of alcohol for one. For some reason getting paralytic through drink is seen as amusing when in fact it's pitiful. Driving/flying under the influence of alcohol or drugs is the cause of many innocent people being maimed or killed every day. Like everything else it's fine in moderation. I enjoy the occasional drink myself & don't go around criticising people for drinking or campaigning for alcohol to be banned.

Back on the topic of smoking on aircraft - burning anything in the cabin of an aircraft is obviously dangerous due to the fire risk alone. I never understood why this was ever allowed. A few stupid people stlll try to ignore the rules & it's right they should be punished severely for doing so. A passenger being drunk on an aircraft is more offensive to me & potentionally as dangerous. IMHO

as Grumpy states it must be darned dangerous.. what moron would smoke on a plane anyway? I'm sure avpin and related stuff wouldnt react well to a fag end..

dano  8)

What I don't understand is why it is so one-sided?

Non-smokers can force society to conform to their lack of a smoking habit, but smokers can't force society to accept their own habit?

Look, I don't want to breathe smoke at the dinner table any more than the next guy, but seriously...if it bothers you, don't go there.  Problem solved.

A famous someone once said . . . . . One cannot be intelligent and smoke at the same time. That is so true, and i don't care if you think it is discrimination, smoking is a absolutely filthy habit that will kill you in some form one day and second hand smoke is just as deadly as the smoke you breath . . . . . you made a choice to smoke, accept the consequenses and get over it.  Don't want to be discriminated against, don't smoke. Simple and you'll live longer.