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Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 5:24 pm
by Wing Nut
I can't believe it's been all day long and no one has posted that this is Pearl Harbor Day.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:16 pm
by Polynomial
may we never forget the souls that were lost! :(

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:54 pm
by Lethal.Ambition
Reading statistics does not really affect me much but just knowing all the Navy men that were lost and trapped under their own boats. under the metal not being able to get out....i don't mean to say Army and civilians are not important but that sort of death
......... :(
I will never forget

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:58 pm
by BFMF
Yep, it's Pearl Harbour day, couldn't get that fact out of my mind all day long.

but imho, it was worse then 9/11.

I've never been to Pearl Harbour, but we have some friends who went who took their video camera. I was amazed to see oil still leaking from the Arizona :o

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:09 pm
by Lethal.Ambition
there anyways that piece could be uploaded? WOuld love to see it.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:15 pm
by chomp_rock
:(Let the poor souls that died on that day rest in peace (not the japanese pilots that died that day though). As a small tribute I just flew a missing man over pearl harbor on the FS with some fellow sim pilots, we flew a formation untill we reached the Arizona memorial then I peeled off slowly.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:24 pm
by Professor Brensec
It was actually yesterday here. But I left it to the Americans, as I figured that there would be a few posts and a bit of a tribute/discussion on their 'special day' of remembrance.  :'(

I saw the usual History Channel Doco that they show each year. Also one of the commercial channels had Tora, Tora, Tora on as the 'Evening Movie'.

I used to wonder why it was only the Arizona that was chosen to be made into a memorial. It wasn't until quite recently (a couple of years ago), that I found out that all the other battle ships were actuallly refloated and/or repaired and she is the only one left there.  :o
A couple of the Battle ships went on to take a little 'personal revenge'.

(I didn't really become all that interested in the American aspect of the Pacific conflict until I got CFS2. That's what set off all the research and study of that side of things.
Prior to that I was quite interested and well versed on Europe and the Australian related Pacific events).

It's really amazing, not to mention the achievement, that the Arizona was the only one permanently lost.
I know they really needed the ships badly, but that was one 'mean feat'.  ;D ;)

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:40 pm
by BFMF
Why only the Arizona Memorial?

Probably because of it's dramatic sinking.

The huge explosion was photographed, and i'm sure everyone is familiar with that photo. And if i'm not mistaken, the Arizona was also one of our biggest battleships at the time. Not to mention the huge loss of life on one ship :(

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:43 pm
by WebbPA
I'm guilty.  I didn't notice the date until I was at the pub.  When I mentioned it someone told me he went to Hawaii a couple of years ago and the Arizona still leaks oil.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:53 pm
by Felix/FFDS
Why only the Arizona Memorial?

Probably because of it's dramatic sinking.

The huge explosion was photographed, and i'm sure everyone is familiar with that photo. And if i'm not mistaken, the Arizona was also one of our biggest battleships at the time. Not to mention the huge loss of life on one ship :(


Like you say - the Arizona was probably unrefloatable....  Not much salvageable remains when the magazines explode.  ...  not like the USS Maine when its coal bunkers exploaded.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:21 pm
by Professor Brensec
Why only the Arizona Memorial?

Probably because of it's dramatic sinking.

The huge explosion was photographed, and i'm sure everyone is familiar with that photo. And if i'm not mistaken, the Arizona was also one of our biggest battleships at the time. Not to mention the huge loss of life on one ship :(


Like I said, Andrew. She's the only one that was left there to make a Memorial of. The rest were refloated and/or repaired.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:38 pm
by Wing Nut
I don't think she was refloatable.  Keep in mind, not only is it a wreck, it is also a tomb for almost 1200 people too.  I'm sure if there were anyway for those bodies to be recovered, they would have.  Also, the US was in short suppy in capital ships and another battleship would have helped.  I think if there were any way to save the ship, they would have done it...

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:33 am
by ATI_7500
really bad...being surprised by the enemy when everything seems to be normal - and dying an unexpected death. :-[

but i gotta admit that the japanese did - seen in a military ,not human way - a great job. they took out almost the entire american pacific fleet within one and a half hour.

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:08 pm
by Felix/FFDS
but i gotta admit that the japanese did - seen in a military ,not human way - a great job. they took out almost the entire american pacific fleet within one and a half hour.



Blame the Brits - the Japanese got the idea for the torpedo attack from the Taranto raid

Re: Pearl Harbor Day...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:41 pm
by Hagar
Blame the Brits - the Japanese got the idea for the torpedo attack from the Taranto raid

Didn't either Billy Mitchell or James Doolittle warn of