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Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:23 am
by ozzy72
DNA tests last night confirmed that the dashing aviator and rugged all-American hero Charles Lindbergh had a secret second family in Germany, fathering three - and possibly more - children outside his marriage.
The German offspring's lawyer, Anton Schwenk, last night said that he was "99% certain" that Lindbergh - who became internationally famous after making the first solo non-stop flight across the Atlantic in 1927 - was indeed their father.
Speaking from Munich, he said: "They never had any doubt about the question."
Scientists from Munich university had compared their DNA with a sample from Lindbergh's family in the US, he said. Lindbergh's three German children - Astrid Bouteuil, 43, and her brothers Dyrk and David Hesshaimer, 45 and 36 - made their beliefs known in August.
The children said they had learned of the identity of the man they knew as Careu Kent after his death in 1974. They said Lindbergh fell in love with their mother, Brigitte Hesshaimer, a 24-year-old German hatmaker, on a visit to Germany in 1957. He continued to visit them until his death.
The children were born between 1958 and 1967. They were listed in official records alongside the category "father unknown", but Lindbergh went on to support them financially.
The existence of Lindbergh's German offspring adds an extraordinary twist to the life story of a man who was apparently happily married to an American, Anne Morrow.
The couple had five children. In 1932 the world was gripped by the kidnap and murder of their baby son, who was taken from the family mansion.
This summer Lindbergh's German children told the S

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:18 pm
by flyboy 28
:-/

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:56 pm
by Loafing Smurf
Wasn't Charles Lindbergh a supporter of the Third Riche until the death camps were found?

I guess it somewhat add up?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:20 pm
by flyboy 28
Again,  :-/

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:29 pm
by Wing Nut
If I remember, he supported the idea of isolationism, which was pretty unpopular at them time.  He was nuked by the press for accepting a medal from Goring in 1938.  However, after America entered the war, he supported the war effort and was even made a Brigadier General in the Air Force Reserve.  I don't think he ever really was a supporter of the Nazi's or of Germany...

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:28 am
by BFMF
Didn't Charles even fly some missions during WW2 as a civilian, but then got sent home after shooting a Japanese aircraft down ???

Maybe i'm thinking of someone else, but I could swear it was him

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:34 am
by ozzy72
I believe you're right Andrew. If memory serves it was testing a P-38 and he killed some kind of Japanese plane. I'm not very knowledgable on the Pacific campaign, so maybe we should ask Hagar or Brensec, I'm sure they'll know.

Ozzy

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:46 am
by Hagar
Didn't Charles even fly some missions during WW2 as a civilian, but then got sent home after shooting a Japanese aircraft down ???

Maybe i'm thinking of someone else, but I could swear it was him

I'm no expert on Lindbergh but I believe this is true. It was mentioned during a lengthy discussion on this subject some time ago. I forget the facts now.

PS. I typed < charles lindbergh p-38 > in Google. Here's what I found on the first site listed.
On 28 July 1944, near Ceram, Lindbergh shot down a Ki-51 Sonia of the 73rd Independent Flying Chutai flown by Captain Saburo Shimada. Lindbergh was nearly shot down himself on 1 August 1944 near Palaus.

Lindbergh returned to USA in mid August 1944.


All you ever wanted to know on this subject & more. http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozatwar/lindbergh.htm

I always said we're fortunate in having free access to the biggest resource of knowledge ever known in history. It always surprised me how few people take advantage of it. ::) :P ;)

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:26 am
by ozzy72
Its reasurring to know at least one grey cell is firing somewhere in the back of my skull ;D
Cheers Hagar ;)

Ozzy

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:39 am
by Hagar
This is the Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia", the type Lindbergh shot down. An obsolete design used for ground attack & reconnaissance.

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Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:46 am
by Felix/FFDS
This is the Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia", the type Lindbergh shot down. An obsolete design used for ground attack & reconnaissance.




H:  Doesn't it kind of, sort of, look like a monoplane Lysander from that angle?

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:48 am
by Hagar
[quote]H:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:13 pm
by Felix/FFDS
F: Now you come to mention it. ;)

Not a bad looking aircraft. IMHO

PS. I think you meant low-wing rather than monoplane. Gotcha..........! :P



Inspector Poly considers a true Lysander to be equipped with the stub wings ..  that's my excuse.. :)

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:45 pm
by Hagar
[quote]Inspector Poly considers a true Lysander to be equipped with the stub wings ..

Re: Charlies Secret

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:12 pm
by BFMF
The Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" isn't a bad looking aircraft, i'll have to look and see if there's one for the flightsimulator ;)


I always said we're fortunate in having free access to the biggest resource of knowledge ever known in history. It always surprised me how few people take advantage of it. ::) :P ;)


I just never think of using a search engine :-[