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I thought I'd post this to allow you Star Trek fans to duke this question out. This goes along with Ender Baron's "Trekkies" post.

oooooh lord. the gloves are gonna come off here:)
this could either proove to be very interesting or very bloody
i am gonna say picard, for a few reasons, he is the guy who made contact with a number of new species, he is also the only captain to go to the edge of the universe, and he has commanded the flag ship for the longest and he turned down an admiral rank to stay there, unlike janeway who was just given the rank because of the situation she was in.
the others are nothing note worthy, although kirk is a close second to picard.
ok all this is irrelevant as its all a show anyway

Deffinitely Kirk!

Put them all in a defined situation:
The Borg are attacking a planet whose inhabitants are important to the Federation.

What do they do?

Picard: Tells Worf to open hailing frequencies and tries to negotiate the Borg away.  (Worf grumbles, obeys . . .)

It's just got to be Kirk! Ender Baron got it spot on, but don't forget not only is Kirk Star Fleets finest Captain, he's had more Space Women than all the others put together, and he did all his in just 79 shows whilst all the others got seven years and still came up short
What a real man.

 Shouldn't we include Captain Pike in this poll, after all he was the Enterprise's captain in the pilot episode.

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Heres how I would rate them:
 1. Kirk
 2. Sisko
 3. Archer
 4. Picard
 5. Janeway

If Pike was included in this poll he fall somwhere between Sisko and Archer.

I honestly think that Pike was one of the greatest Captain's of them all-well according to his story.  He basically gave his life to save rookie crew who was being trained.  I know he wasn't dead-but he wasn't that alive either.

I think Picard was the best, no great reason but probably based more on the acting skills of Stewart V Shatner.  Janeway IMHO was a sop to the ladies, she couldn't make the choice between commanding and leading a democracy.  She also needlessly endangered her crew by getting involved in all sorts of touchy feely missions when she should have been concentrating on getting home.

Will

There was apparently a world wide poll held by Paramount a year or two ago. pickard won quite convincingly.
There was a Fox Cable TV1 poll in Australia this year, again pickard won almost 50% of the vote.

Like the 'scurulous' "Best Fighter debate", everyone is going to have their fave for their own reasons.

For me, Pickard's commanding presence, his voice, his way of handling and carrying himself is what attracts me to him. He is also (except for Sisco in a limited way) is the only Captain to be held in high esteem and honour by the Klingons. That's high praise and recommendation!

Alot of people probably like Kirks 'luck' with the ladies (which is just another example of the 'camp' nature of TOS), although I love it. But then Pickard does 'quite well', especially for a man in his 50's...............lol

As for Pike, although I loved Geoffrey Hunter (especially as Christ), he's a 'non-event' as far as Star Trek is concerned. Gee's......Captain Sulu has been in as many, if not more episodes and Movies, than Pike!
I really think it should just include 'Series Captains'.  ;D

The fact that TNG was the best series in the recent poll (by far). It only stands to reason that Pickard would be favoured as the 'best Captain'.

how can anyone put archer above picard? he has to be the worst of the lot.
i think bren also just covered a few other reasons why i like picard best. he along with kirk are only ones who are truely commited to the job they were doing, they were always focused on what they had to do, although that side of kirk didnt really come out till the movies, but look at janeway, her job was to bring voyager home, a journey which at constant top warp would have taken 70 years+ so when you consider having to stop for damage, to refuel, and avoiding anomolys she the decides its a good thing to start taking U-turns side tracks and trips round the local nebula, just because it tickles her fancy that final trip like that would have prob taken over 140 years had they carried on. had that been picard or kirk, hell they would have not only found a way to save the ocompa but also have been able to use the caretakers machine.
but janeway being the type of captain who thinks more along the lines of i want to do this so i will even though there are other options.
sisko, well theres not much differance there, he acts to much on gut instincts and it got him in trouble, then he even quit his job at one point returning to earth, i would hardly call that the sign of a good captain

Ok, Pike is now on the list. To be honest, I've never seen the original pilot episode.

Kirk is a stereotypical womanizing, brash, daredevil Yank type. Picard, supposedly French heritage, cannot help but come off as a stereotypical Brit Officer, due to the actual heritage of the actor. I think that might have something to do with it in certain cases. If you look above, you will notice a small amount of Brit Yank polarization along these lines.

You favor those that represent your nationlistic ideals. Like in the Spit or Mustang debate.

My favorite? Why Captain Queeg (sp?) of course! Oops - wrong movie.

 Kirk, Sisko and Archer are "doers".  Picard and Janeway are "talkers".  Don't get me wrong, all command with the power of authority, but sometimes you just gotta get out of the captain's chair and lead that away team!

Since Pike was deemed a tad too agressive for a "Peaceful Mission" commander, he was replaced by a more compassionate Kirk........As the record shows, Tiberious was more of a "Lover" than a "Fighter", but thats not to say he wasn't a good tactician....witness the " Corbomite Maneuver ".........

There was only one......Tiberious !

Born: March 22, 2233
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   Nephew: Peter Kirk (raised by his grandmother after losing his parents on Deneva)
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