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A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:17 am
by Wing Nut
If this is true, the value of this find could be incalculable to aviation historians.  There are only 2 Ju-87's left in the world (one here in Chicago).  Could you imagine finding more in perfect condition after 60 years?  Or what about a Me-262?  Incredible!  ;D

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/internatio ... =792292003

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:21 am
by Craig.
that really could be a huge find, especially if the planes are in good condition, the only thing i dont understand is, were the planes and bombs buired in cave type bunkers, or just covered in a few meters of soil.??

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:17 am
by Smoke2much
That would be an immensley important find if it proves to be true.  Unfortunately if there are tonnes of high explosives packed around any aircraft it may be the case that the blow them up rather than risk the lives of excavators.

We shall have to watch and see, and save money to buy our own as new WW2 vintage aircraft...............

Will

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:24 pm
by HawkerTempest5
I have a wish list of Warbirds I'd love to see at Flying Legends. These include a Tempest MkV, Seafire L IIIc, Spitfire F Mk21 and an Fw190, ME 262, BF 109 and JU88.
Wouldn't it be fantastic to think that a 190, 109 or 88 could be just sitting there waiting for someone to find.
Having said all that, it does sound like they may have been burried in concrete and that might not be too good.

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:43 pm
by Smoke2much
The problem may be the post war attitude to all things military that reminded people of the conflict.  My second cousin ran a company in the fifties and sixties that started out as a scrap merchant and moved into road haulage later on.  In about 1955 they purchased some whouse space that happened to be hangers on an old airfield.  In the hangers they discovered five, yes FIVE mint condition Lancaster bombers.  They rubbed their hands gleefully as the scrap value of the aluminium alone repaid the cost of the hangers.  He sent his boys in with cutting torches and ripped them apart.

One of the Lanc's had completed two full tours and had some stained glass panes to commemorate it.  He took some photo's before smashing them out to get to the valuable metal.....

This was ten years after the close of the war.  To these men the bombers represented nothing more than six years of pain, loss, uncertainty and grief.

Today when we see a Lancaster, or hear those great Merlins roar into life we get a cold chill down our spine and wish that one day we will get to sit in the left hand seat on the flight deck.  In 1955 they felt somewhat different about the whole thing.

My point (Yes, there is one :D) is that if these stores were "found" during the fifties or sixties they would have been simply destroyed without fuss or notice.  And no-one would have cared.

Will

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:38 am
by ozzy72
That is a tragedy Will, but obviously these days our perspective is different to our parents and grandparents.
For example my grandparents wouldn't talk to anyone of German or Italian descent, I however have a number of German and Italian friends... So I understand what you are saying, still a tragedy though. Mind you a lot of Spits turned into scrap too, including some v.famous ones.........
If this story is true however it would be one of the most remarkable finds in modern archaeological history.

Ozzy

Re: A fantastic find...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:52 pm
by HawkerTempest5
This reminds me of something I read in one of the monthly mags recently. A guy was trying to aquire historical aircraft for a museum/flying collection he was starting up. He inquired about a Mosquito and was told by the Air Ministry he could have one for about