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A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:04 pm
by Iroquois
This is just absolutly disgusting. It's a case of Animal Crualty going through the Ontario courts. I'm no Animal rights activist but what these guys are accused of is just gross. The Artical below is quite graphic.

http://www.canada.com/hamilton/story.as ... B1750AF0DD

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:18 pm
by BFMF
I don't like cats, but that's gone too far even for me. I'm all for giving a cat a bad time ;D, but would never torture one to death like that

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:49 pm
by Blade
OMFG, Thats just, I can't even think of the words, I have two cats don't really like them, but they are living animals such as us, I think I'm gonna cry.

Re: A Very Bizzare Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:16 am
by Wing Nut
You know, part of the problem with people today is that their perceptions are screwed up.  Obviously, this is a feeble attempt to justify torture by calling it 'art'  But why did they think they could get away with that?  People today think that they cany justify anything that way.  

The purpose of art (and music) is to inspire people; to make them think in a way they never have before.  That's why ancient painting mostly all tell a story.  But some where along the line we got screwed up.  We confused shocking someone with inspiring someone and it's not the same.    It's easy to think of a way to shock someone; it is difficult to inspire them.  Real inspiration takes thought and planning and most of all, a purpose.  Shocking someone with an obscene picture like Mapplethorpe did, or obscene lyrics like Tupac will at best make someone think for a few weeks at most.  Then people move on and they are forgotten.  Artists like Tupac will not be remembered; artists like Mozart will never be forgotten.

That is not to say all older works were not shocking in their time.  My God, look at half the plays of Shakespeare.  All the incest, murder, rape, and adultery one can handle and that's in Hamlet alone.

That is also not to say all modern work is without value.  I could sit and look at Jackson Pollack, Edward Weston, or listen to the Beatles without end.  I even love Mapplethorpe's flowers.

So, 100 years from now, what will people be looking at, listening to, watching (film IS an art form too)?  I'll bet the Beatles will still be here, Casablanca will be, and Ansel Adams will be.  J. Lo, Dumb and Dumberer, and most all performance art will be long gone.

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:47 am
by ozzy72
People like this deserve to be flogged (in public). Its just disgusting, I'm not a cat person (my wife is though), but anyone who does this sort of thing needs to be taught a serious lesson that they'll never forget. 50 lashes is about the right amount I think!

Horrible >:(

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:45 am
by Wing Nut
Wow, I guess that's what I get for having that fifth Heinekin, huh?  It always annoys me when people do crap in the name of art.  Sorry about the rant...

Friend don't let friends drink and type...

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:14 am
by Tequila Sunrise
JHFC >:(
think I'm off to be sick!
those bastards deserve to be hanged drawn and quartered!

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:32 am
by Craig.
just a shame that the punishment cant be the same as the crime, like others i am not a cat person but there is no living animal that deserves to suffer that, and anyone who commits those sort of actions deserves the ass kicking of a lifetime

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:01 pm
by Iroquois
There are people pushing to toughen up the laws on animal abuse, because someone who hurts an animal in that way could start doing it to human beings as well.
Like I said, I'm no animal rights activist but even farmers at the slaughter house don't treat the animals like that. I don't think they called it art becuase they actualy thought it was art. I think they were just trying to use the constitutional right of freedom of expression to get off scot free. Luckly the judge didn't buy that.

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:14 pm
by Oz
It has nothing to do with art. Torture is not art. That was probably their best and only defense for commiting this crime.

50 lashes is about the right amount I think!


Nope, i think a whole day's worth of non-stop lashes is good enough. And then lots of years of prison time.  >:(

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:45 pm
by va_chairman
I'm all for art and everything, and yes, we (especially those of us in the US) do have a lot of absolutely amazing rights.

However, if I had a nickel for every time my parents told me as a kid that "for every right comes a responsibility"...

Just because you HAVE a right, doesn't make what you're doing right.  You've got to use a little bit of common sense once in a while.

I'd like to get into the line for the flogging.  Should I just take a number?  :g:

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:55 am
by chomp_rock
That is Horrible! I hope they spend the rest of their worthless no-good lives in jail eating stuff that is not even worthy to feed to dogs...

Re: A Very Bizzar Case

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:59 am
by chomp_rock
oh and I would like to give them the biggest beating of their lives, personally!