Criminal Sentences??

[Oz]

I while ago i was thinkin that all these people that comit crimes mostly get light sentences. I read the Holly's law post and indeed i was quite sadened. I think in about 78% of cases, a person who commits a crime has already done one previously and done his time. I tell ya where i live you see crazy stuff and a lot of crime. Just some years ago a 12 year old was given life in prison ofr accidently killing another girl doin some wrestling stunt. Accidenly. Then i hear some guy who murders 3 people and is given only 13 years in prison. Then a guy who stabbed his wife to death and was given 8 years. As soon as these people do their time they go back on the streets and start killing again. Thats why theres so much crime in the world. I was thinkin about a good solution to this which has its pros and cons.

Why not make a 'Book of Criminal Sentences' where you would look up the number of years a criminal is to be imprisoned depending on a crime. I think its ludicrous to give a killer below 10 years of jail time.

[x]

Some crimes need a life sentence, period!!
But they say thats unfair!!
Why do we have to be "fair" to
these animals? If you come across a
mad-dog, do you worry about "fair"?

There is no answer, we have to watch
our backs and the backs of those we
love!!

X
   

[BFMF]

I heard an interesting story today....

Recently in Alaska, a bear wondered onto some guy's property, killed his horse, and started destroying everything it could, wreaking havoc on his property. The guy finally took his rifle and killed the bear, now he's in prison :-/

[Oz]

I heard an interesting story today....
Recently in Alaska, a bear wondered onto some guy's property, killed his horse, and started destroying everything it could, wreaking havoc on his property. The guy finally took his rifle and killed the bear, now he's in prison  

Now thats justice gone bad :-/ I wonder what state that happened in..

[BFMF]

Alaska

[Oz]

ok....

[BFMF]

I mentioned Alaska in my original post

[ozzy72]

Unfortunately the punishment rarely fits the crime, my uncle is a prison governor and I visited his prison last year. 2 people to a room, with its own cable TV, 3 square meals a day, pool tables, education center, arts and crafts center, music studio.
Err what kind of punishment is this?
In Britain there are 7 times as many support groups for criminals as there are for victims. I think we should take a step back and actually make prison a punishment not a holiday camp.

Ozzy

[Hagar]

In good old Britain I am expected to stand by & let some creature break into my home & take anything they want. If I dare lay a hand on them I am the one who will be arrested & end up in jail. Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad?  ???

PS. I would risk going to jail rather than let anyone get away with this. They would wish they never picked on me.

[Felix/FFDS]

Move to Florida - US ....  IF you break into my house, with obvously violent intentions, I can defend myself, including using 'deadly force' ...  just make sure the body stays INSIDE the house   ..  In other US jurisdictions, you have to retreat as much as possible, say into a closet, or something...before you can blow the person away.

Some states have a "three strikes you're out" law, so that some people are getting life in prison for a "third strike" of what would otherwise be shoplifting something minor....





[quote]In good old Britain I am expected to stand by & let some creature break into my home & take anything they want. If I dare lay a hand on them I am the one who will be arrested & end up in jail. Am I the only one who thinks the world has gone mad?

[ozzy72]

I know what you mean Hagar, I caught two little gypsy twerps (I would like to say I'm not a racist, and have taught a number of v.talented students of gypsy origin) trying to break into the flat of my next door neighbour (an elderly lady) a while back. One of them attacked me with a knife (which was his last mistake of the day!), and when the police turned up the pair of them needed to go to hospital (thank God for steel toe-capped British army boots!), and normally here you'd be deep in the brown stuff, but the police asked me what happened (sometimes being a foreigner is soooo handy), and I explained what happened, handed over the knife and said "I gave them a stiff talking too...." the policemans reply was "what the f*** do you do when you shout?"
At least here there is the right of self defence, Britain tragically seems to feel that the criminal has more rights than the victim. Personally I'm for bringing back corporal punishment, and public humiliation (e.g. the stocks), it seems to actually work, but I'm not entirely in favour of capital punishment as that seems to have failed, read the Bently case....

Ozzy

[EirePlane]

I think I heard somewhere before a couple of years back that in Ireland If A criminal is halfway through the window it is illegal to shoot them from inside the house but you can go outside and shoot them If they are still in the window. Then again this could be completely wrong. I was only 7 at the time

[Oz]

the posts seem to have gotten a bit off topic but its fine..anyhow it seems that some government officials just arent.....sane...in some countries.

[Hagar]

Oz. I read your original topic carefully. Your ideas have been seriously suggested in this country as we suffer from similar problems. They have always been thrown out as impractical. The problem being that there is no typical crime, take Felix's example of the "3 strikes & you're out" law which was also suggested here.

I don't pretend to know the answer as it has baffled far better brains than mine. To my way of thinking prevention was always better than cure. I feel a little respect wouldn't do any harm. Too many of these criminals have no respect for anyone, including their parents.

[Oz]

[quote]Oz. I read your original topic carefully. Your ideas have been seriously suggested in this country as we suffer from similar problems. They have always been thrown out as impractical. The problem being that there is no typical crime, take Felix's example of the "3 strikes & you're out" law which was also suggested here.