why are jets faster then props?

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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby SilverFox441 » Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:39 pm

Jet engine turbines don't stall because of the configuration of the intakes. The intake is designed to slow the incoming airstream and increase it's pressure.

Some aircraft (like the SR-71) have variable geometry intakes that allow this effect to be maintained over a wider speed range. You should note that the SR-71 and the F-104 (which had a similar intake style) both suffered from "unstarts" which is basically a compressor stall caused by allowing supersonic airflow into the engine.
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Deputy » Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:44 am

Which would cool the air enough that it couldnt cause thrust right? I should know this, but I don't.

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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Felix/FFDS » Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:02 am

Without going into details, combustion turbines (i.e., gas turbines, but considering they can operated on fuel oil, propane, natural gas, ....) are designed to operate at a certain range of inlet air mass/pressure - too much or too little air flow and your turbine won't turn over...

(analogy -stand in the airflow of a table fan - if it's turning fast enough, you won't be able to breathe properly... too much air for you to handle, so you have to take it in "gulps;  get on a high mountain, where there's lower air pressure ("thin air") and you can't breathe either - you'll welcome that table fan!)

This is one of the reasons you have variable inlets - to control the airflow into your turbine

The air temperature is important - the compressor takes in the inlet air, increases the pressure and by pressurizing it, increases the temperature so that when it goes into the combustion chambers, and fuel is injected and ignited, a more efficient combustion takes place...more *work* is generated to turn the turbine blades which turn the compressor.....

In a pure tubojet engine, the thrust provided by the exhausted gases (the jets) provides all the force.

In high bypass engines, the "fans" up front provide most of the "thrust"

You can generalize up to a certain point - all combustion turbines "suck, squeeze, bang, and blow" - its the how they do it that drives engineers nuts...(who have to start with)



Which would cool the air enough that it couldnt cause thrust right? I should know this, but I don't.

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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Fly2e » Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:24 am

Yeah, I agree with
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Deputy » Sat Feb 15, 2003 2:36 pm

[quote]Without going into details, combustion turbines (i.e., gas turbines, but considering they can operated on fuel oil, propane, natural gas, ....) are designed to operate at a certain range of inlet air mass/pressure - too much or too little air flow and your turbine won't turn over...

(analogy -stand in the airflow of a table fan - if it's turning fast enough, you won't be able to breathe properly... too much air for you to handle, so you have to take it in "gulps;
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby torquestripe » Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:39 pm

Because the air speed indicator says so!!! Jeez Loweez.
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Professor Brensec » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:04 pm

As you see, the comment has been completely removed.

Thanks, no harm.  ;D ;)
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby torquestripe » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:05 pm

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Professor Brensec » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:12 pm

OH gosh almost forgot, could you please direct me to one of the more enlightened forums.


Pretty much any of the others. This one is unique, in that it's populated almost exclusively by people with IQ's Higher than "cretin"
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Re: why are jets faster then props?

Postby Redsunfox » Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:46 am

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