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I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:54 pm
by Webb
Colorado movie gunman sentenced to 12 lifetimes and 3,318 years

Condemning movie massacre gunman James Holmes to 12 (consecutive) life sentences and the maximum 3,318 years in prison for his rampage in a midnight screening of a Batman film, a Colorado judge said on Wednesday that evil and mental illness are not mutually exclusive.

"It is the court's intention that the defendant never set foot in free society again ... If there was ever a case that warranted the maximum sentences, this is the case," Arapahoe County District Court Judge Carlos Samour said.


12 consecutive life sentences isn't even the longest sentence ever imposed. The longest was 141,000 years.

Wikipedia

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:07 pm
by Fozzer
A Nevada "old timer" in the TV Travel Channel's; "Worlds Greatest Motorcycle Rides" recalled the old Nevada view on life sentences..

"Why waste time paying to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life, after conviction?"

"Its better to shoot them, and then deal with their families later.".

That's what they used to do in Nevada, in the Olden Days!... ;) ...!

...sorted!...

Paul.... 8-) ...!

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:27 pm
by OldAirmail
It's well known that people can survive under what others would consider horrible circumstances.

If he doesn't kill himself, or someone else do the honors, it's a good bet that he'll adapt to prison life.

Others have even committed crimes to get back into prison after doing 25-30 years.

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:58 pm
by Webb
Charles Manson seems to have adapted pretty well after 45 years.

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:20 pm
by OldAirmail
I think that Manson is in his own little world.

Adjusting to prison life, and being "normal" can be two entirely different things.



My little brother worked at a hospital for the criminally insane.

These weren't the ones who said that the devil made them shoot or stab someone. These were the ones who hacked their mothers or girlfriends into little pieces.


One day a six foot + monster burst thru some half open doors as staff were going about their duties. He came to the final door. The one that would normally stop most people.

He broke that door open by running full force into it. No "Oh, this is gona hurt". Full force.

They caught up to him on the steps outside. Just standing there.


Later my brother asked him why he had stopped after getting out.

The guy replied that he didn't know where to go.

He'd been in too long


Getting out can be an abstract idea sometimes. Not everyone is like Hannibal Lecter, just waiting to get out and kill again.

In fact, life isn't like TV all that much.

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:12 am
by expat
Webb wrote:Colorado movie gunman sentenced to 12 lifetimes and 3,318 years

12 consecutive life sentences isn't even the longest sentence ever imposed. The longest was 141,000 years.


Sorry, but that is from the legal profession a completely pointless statement. 141,000 years in jail. Do they think that it makes the victims family feel better. The words "The state / country will ensure by all medical possibilities that you die of very, very old age in prison" would just about cover it for me.

Matt

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:52 am
by Fozzer
I find this information fascinating, as I watch, wide-eyed, the latest episode of; "Cops/Cops Reloaded" on the TV CBS Reality Channel*....>>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarcera ... ted_States

Modern? USA can be a very scary place!

Paul.... :o ...!

* http://www.cbsreality.tv/uk/shows.php?title=Cops

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:40 pm
by OldAirmail
That's nothing, Paul.

Capital punishment in China

The People's Republic of China executes the highest number of people annually, though other countries (such as Iran or Singapore) have higher per capita execution rates. Watchdog groups believe that actual execution numbers greatly exceed officially recorded executions; in 2008, 2009, and 2010, the Dui Hua Foundation estimated that 5,000 people were executed each year in China – far more than all other nations combined.



Actually, I would expect that crime & insanity in the US will increase in the coming years.

Liberal trends (as in - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition) over the past 60 years have played down the idea that one is responsible for ones actions, and that self-indulgence is beneficial to your personal growth. IE. - The Me generation.

Re: I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:27 am
by expat
OldAirmail wrote:
Liberal trends (as in - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition) over the past 60 years have played down the idea that one is responsible for ones actions, and that self-indulgence is beneficial to your personal growth. IE. - The Me generation.



Yes, you are quite right, but it is all or nothing in the US. At the other end of the scale, the right wing push an agenda that no one is allowed to make a mistake and jail is the only answer for just about ever crime. There is no happy medium. Here in the UK, (rightly or wrongly) the police when they have arrested you can charge you, release you or hold you for further enquiries for a set length of time, the same in the USA. However the UK police have another option, they can release you on bail. In the USA, you are arrested, it is jail until you are bailed out. No wonder there is such over crowding. Just about every minor crime involves a stay in jail before you are processed out. For example, swearing at a cop is just a lack of respect and jail is a pointless exercise. It costs a boat load of money, nothing more nothing less. Jail time should be kept for real crimes, for people who are a danger to others at the time of being arrest or for habitual or anti social behaviour for example. From what I have seen, as a Brit, I have been fortunate to do ride along with both local law enforcement and state, jail seems to be the first card played the majority of the time..... The question is how do you change anything. Does it start with the police then everyone thinks they have gone soft on crime, or does it start with the population, the government is tell me how to live my life.....?

As for the Me generation, that is the biggest problem of the lot. Oddly this appears to be only one generation old. I am only in my 40's, but the Me generation were no anywhere close to what we have today. I think the main culprit today is social media. Basically, life is not fair so you can whine to a couple of million people on Facebook or Twitter about it and get some sympathy. Sympathy, take a look in the dictionary, it comes between shit and syphilis....! Life is hard, get use to it and be responsible for your own actions.

Matt