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Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:31 pm
by Webb
I can't even imagine this. Locked up for her entire adult life (45 years) with no possibility of parole.

Of course she deserved death for seven first degree murders and if she had committed her crimes in Texas or Florida she would have been executed years ago.

Patricia Krenwinkel

Patricia Dianne Krenwinkel (born December 3, 1947) is an American murderer and a former member of Charles Manson's commune, known as "the Family" ...

Following the death of fellow Manson gang member, Susan Atkins, Krenwinkel is now the longest-incarcerated female inmate in the California penal system, along with Leslie Van Houten ...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hbIPJuiac[/youtube]

Charlie is still alive and well, tattooing swastikas on his forehead, supported by California taxpayers and showing no remorse.

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:36 am
by Fozzer
The Barker Ranch in the Panamint Mountain range, Death Valley, California.

The "home" of the Manson "family"...>>>

https://thedesertfiles.wordpress.com/20 ... es-manson/

A popular spot for my various Flight Sim explorations.

And a tour...>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79pmT7RW5A

Paul.... :mrgreen: ...!

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:35 am
by Apex
I read part of the Wiki there. "For a time she taught Catechism . . . and considered becoming a nun." Unbelievable.

A terrible crime, beyond words.

"Following Tate's death, Polanski returned to Europe and spent much of his time in Paris and Gstaad, but did not direct another film until Macbeth (1971) in England."

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 6:38 pm
by logjam
She's a Nun now I guess. :doh:

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:02 pm
by Webb
Apex wrote:"Following Tate's death, Polanski returned to Europe and spent much of his time in Paris and Gstaad, but did not direct another film until Macbeth (1971) in England."

Roman Polanski will never return to America or to any country that has an extradition treaty with America.

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:29 pm
by Webb
Edit: Patricia Krenwinkel will be eligible for parole in 2018. She will be 70 years old.

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:13 am
by Hawkeye07
Webb wrote:
Apex wrote:"Following Tate's death, Polanski returned to Europe and spent much of his time in Paris and Gstaad, but did not direct another film until Macbeth (1971) in England."

Roman Polanski will never return to America or to any country that has an extradition treaty with America.


I must be missing something here because Polanski did return to the U.S. in 1974 to direct "Chinatown". In 1977, after a photo shoot in Los Angeles, Polanski was arrested for the rape of a 13-year-old girl and pleaded guilty to the charge of unlawful sex with a minor.[18] To avoid sentencing, Polanski fled to his home in London, eventually settling in France.
Here's the weird part ---> More than 32 years later, in September 2009, he was temporarily arrested by Swiss police at the request of United States authorities, who unsuccessfully asked for his extradition. During an interview for a later film documentary, he offered his apology to the woman, and later said that he had regretted that episode for the last 33 years. Why did the U.S. wait so long to ask for extradition?

As far as extradition treaties go...

France has had an extradition treaty in force with the U.S. since 1911
England has had an extradition agreement in one form or another with the U.S. since 1794
Switzerland ( Gstaad is a village in Southwestern Switzerland ) has had an extradition treaty in force with the U.S. since 1900

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:39 am
by Webb
Yes, you are missing something.

Polanski raped the girl in 1977 so "Chinatown" in 1974 doesn't count.

As far as extradition from France I only know what Wikipedia tells me

Polanski fled to France on 1 February 1978, just hours before sentencing. As a French citizen, he has been protected from extradition and has lived mostly in France since then.


The US waited 33 years to ask for Swiss extradition because he wasn't in Switzerland until 2009.

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:18 am
by Hawkeye07
OK, the way it was written it looked like you meant he would never return to the U.S. due to circumstances surrounding Tates death which was obviously before Chinatown. I remember the rape charges back in '77. The press raked him over the coals too bad the cops didn't do some raking.

Re: Good news, your death sentence is commuted

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:32 am
by logjam
They should put him in the same place as Manston and the others.