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Need help...

Postby Flying Trucker » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:35 pm

Good afternoon all... :D

Yes I need help, at least some advice, perhaps a shrink, maybe I should trade in the Old Girl for two (2) forty-five (45) year olds or three (3) thirty (30) year olds.

The Old Girl was out for several hours today, I had plenty of time to plan and do a simulated flight on this FSX Game. I used to enjoy doing a simulated flight all the time.

Not sure what the problem is but as soon as I sit down to plan out a flight, I lose interest.

Oh yes, I sometimes get as far as picking the simulated aircraft but then interest falls away. Perhaps I need a new flight simulator or try something other than Microsoft FSX.
There are a number of other flight simulators, maybe that is where I should be looking.

Many of you like OldAirmail seem to be getting on with it quite well, I am just using you as an example OldAirmail. Have been watching you build that system also.
Perhaps I should spend some money and upgrade, I hate to do that as my son and grandson said they would build me a motion flight simulator as soon as theirs is finished, this summer I hope.

Notice a few folks are not posting as many flights like they used too, can't be the season, winter is probably when most folks have more time on their hands and spend their time indoors.

Motivation, that is what I need, probably will get a good kick in the butt if the Old Girl reads this... :doh: :think:
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Re: Need help...

Postby OldAirmail » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:05 pm

What keeps me going is the simulated travel.

As a young boy, 3 to 10, we traveled to Spain, Iceland, and England. Then back to the states.

Afterwards, we stayed in the US, although after school I lived in six to seven other states.

Now, the only way that I'll travel far from home is vicariously.



I didn't realize it, but that's the reason that I keep going back to well made photoreal scenery.

When I find something really well made, it gets very immersive. I fly the area, compare it to the Google satellite images, and then explore the area via Google street view.

And if I want to, I can even listen to international "local" radio broadcasts & music.

Growing up in the '50s & '60s, all of that was absurd science fiction! :o



I wouldn't recommend a different flight sim.

Within the first year of FSX, I tried X-Plane to see if it weren't better.

It's not, not really. They both have their plusses and minuses.

Switching to X-Plane now would require learning new commands, keystrokes, short-cuts, the whole shebang.

And in the end, you'd be back where you are now.

That's probably why I switched to Prepar3d V2.x.

There's not much to learn, and I can easily use almost everything that I've bought, Saitek etc.



And the last thought, is that you could move down to Florida for the winter. :D

I think that the last time you had this problem was in the winter too.

Just tell yourself that the only reason that you're going is for the Florida seaplane rides.

As pretty as all that snow is, you might enjoy a winter change. :D

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Re: Need help...

Postby Fozzer » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:44 pm

I tell you what I do, as a rest from pretending to fly aeroplanes...

I play all sorts of Computer games on my PC!

Shoot-em-ups, adventure games, platform games, puzzle games, all sorts of games!

I have crates of them dotted all around the house, dating from 1980 to the present, all ready for instant enjoyment in fantasy-land!

I play all the computer and console games that the youngsters like playing...silly old me!..... :lol: ...!

Have a word with your Grand-Children and Great Grand-children, Doug!

They will take you on a trip into the magic world of computer games!

Paul.....saving the World from advancing Aliens...and Double-Glazing Salesmen.... :dance: ...!
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Re: Need help...

Postby Steve M » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:53 pm

Paul has a point there Doug. I was getting tired of flight sim so over the Christmas sale at Steam I bought Farm Sim 2013 pretty cheap. By mid February, after some intense farming for a month and a half I had bought half the map (fields) and all of the big farm implements ending with a bank balance of 99 million bucks. And 100 chickens! I got bored with the farm and fired up FSX yesterday and flew for 7 hours. Living on the farm for 40 days made me realize what my real passion is. ^-^
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Re: Need help...

Postby Flying Trucker » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:47 am

Good morning all... :D

Excellent information in all of the above posted replies... :clap:

Not sure I would want to go to Florida as I would miss the snow.
We are actively involved in many winter activities and I fly off amphibious floats in the summer and wheels/skis in the winter.
(well I used to but now I fly with another licensed aviator as I let my medical expire...2 & 1/2 log books is enough)... :lol:

The only game on my computer is Microsoft FSX, I even removed FS2004.

When I had Microsoft FS2004 installed I believe there was a lot of freeware scenery I had with it and I am not sure it was compatible with Microsoft FSX.

Chris “MoCat” Carel had some wonderful scenery packages but not sure if I tried them in Microsoft FSX. :think:

There was some nice float/seaplane bases around the Ketchikan Alaska Area which I used.

They say a change is as good as a rest...perhaps removing Microsoft FSX and installing Microsoft FS2004 might be motivating.

Give me time folks I shall get back at this...and a Link to any freeware scenery for float or seaplane flying (Bush Flying) that I could use for Microsoft FSX would be most appreciated... :dance:
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Re: Need help...

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:58 am

Browse away Doug :-D http://simviation.com/1/browse-Scenery-63-0
Meanwhile maybe a break isn't such a bad thing, or maybe try flying somewhere new. I've had some fun exploring Russia recently, and Dave and I used to do MP sessions in New Zealand quite a lot (try heading out of Milford Sound and going for an explore), Switzerland is also fun ;-) Maybe join one of the MP sessions and fly with some of the gang, those are always great fun!
Whenever I need a break from simming I tend to either play on my tablet, or sometimes play GT racing games (I don't have much time these days alas).
When worst comes to worst, I just fire up my ZX Spectrum emulator on the PC and play 8-bit classic games from the 80s till my eyes ache :-D
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Re: Need help...

Postby Hawkeye07 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:16 pm

Hey Doug, I can somewhat relate to your dilemma too. I recently bought the Warbirdsim "Special Edition P-51" and I've been keeping busy with modifying paint schemes and playing with the panel & gauges. (You're right Paul, I've become a gauge junkie though I don't use FS Panel - more of a challenge this way and I have an excuse for drinking more Rum).

Anyway I found that even that doesn't always keep me amused so I bought The Rise Of Flight-Channel Edition and it's a great change of pace. I don't have a high end computer but it handles ROF nicely. The scenery is beautiful and the planes have great detail and besides what can be more fun than blowing up a U boat in the Channel?
The explosion, fire and smoke effects are great too! Just watch yourself, there's always someone who wants to shoot back.
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Re: Need help...

Postby ViperPilot » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:40 pm

I've found my enthusiasm for FlightSim waning recently, accelerated by the demise of my venerable P4 FS computer. I've loaded a clean copy of FS9 onto my 'new' Laptop, but I'm scared to add anything else to the Install!

Maybe that's part of it... the fear of screwing something up!


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Re: Need help...

Postby Fozzer » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:30 pm

Doug.... :D .....

Why not keep BOTH FS 2004, AND FSX, on your HDD...like I do!

Remember, almost all the freeware Scenery installed in FS 2004 will also work in FSX!

Most of my lovely freeware scenery on my FSX, is copied from my original FS 2004!
(Lots more freeware scenery stuff for FS 2004, than for FSX!)

I always keep copies of all my freeware (and payware) scenery, (loads of it!), saved on a spare CD, for use in FS 2004 and FSX!

...I even have my original FS 98SE on my HDD...just for fun!

Paul....I love the old stuff!.... :mrgreen: ...!

...and Mark...keep up the good work on the old Sinclair Speccy!...(I have the payware "Spectaculator").... :dance: ...!
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Re: Need help...

Postby Jetranger » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:23 pm

or ,,,,,, get out the Real Airplanes taking a break from simming

like this P-51 Mustang I have, this is the 1st one I have, the other one is in the other room a kin to this with different markings.

this one on the living room table is supporting a Vintage WW-II Find I recently came across from December 1942.

it was in a Box that belong to my Pilot Father who passed a couple years ago.


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Re: Need help...

Postby Anthindelahunt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:56 pm

Hi Doug.I think we all go through this.I think trying a completely
different area is a great idea.I don't know if you have ftx global etc.
but it opens a whole new world.Also a completely different aircraft
to what you normally fly,can recharge the batteries.

Regards Anthin. :think:
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Re: Need help...

Postby OldAirmail » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:33 am

On the other hand....

Try the same thing in a different way.



TrackIR 5 turns FSX/P3d into a totally different experience.

Imagine yourself in the cockpit of a real plane. You want to look left to judge your approach to the runway.

NOW, imagine yourself having to push a hat switch to do it. IN A REAL PLANE! :o

Yeah. Not very real, is it.



TrackIR works best in a VC view.

You just naturally turn your head a little and you can look ALL around.

Look to the left or right. Look at the instrument panel. Up. Down. Just turn your head and look.

And best of all, it's a skill that you've already mastered. :lol:


It really does make flying a sim a lot more natural and interesting.

There are a couple of tips for getting acclimated to it, but they're VERY, VERY simple.
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Re: Need help...

Postby RitterKreuz » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:09 am

Trucker, the others make a fine point and i understand how you feel because sometimes the exact same thing happens to me.

I will get all worked up and excited to come home and sit down and pick a plane, departure point, destination and make it happen and by the time i do all that the excitement fades and i almost ask myself "Whats the point of all this really?" my logic is that in the end i will have sat stationary in my computer room and pretended to fly an airplane from point a to point b for no reason other than because

when used to get released from a deployment to work and i came home after 9 months of not having sat in front of my own computer the first thing bet your arse I did was started zooming around the virtual skies in FSX, i kept the sky hot completing at least 5 flights a week for about a month... then one day i unplug the yoke and remove it from the desk and it sits idle for a couple months

the question is - why?

i think the answer is a lot simpler than we think - we burn out on flying the same flights from the same airports (or similar ones) for ultimately no point really. after realizing that there was no point, and little challenge to flying around in excellent weather all the time with no passengers or cargo and no immersion into what i was doing... so i developed my own strategies for making FSX more enjoyable by adding challenges and items to make FSX more immersive and for the most part, they do bring me out of the funk (bear with me because some of these have been mentioned)

1 - Air Hauler: The program "Air Hauler" is a stand alone program that runs outside of FSX. it allows you to create a Cargo Company, Pick a hub, hire pilots of varying skill levels and salary demands, you can customize the names of your pilots, you pick the type of aircraft you want to fly from your virtual fleet, customize their tail numbers, you can upload a company logo... the program tracks all of your company expenses like fuel costs, insurance costs, labor costs, aircraft payments or lease payments, the rent payments for your hub etc one of the neatest features in Air Hauler is that it provides a list of "Jobs" suitable to the aircraft type you have chosen and each job has a compensation total. One job might be to fly 12,000 lbs of Computer parts from your hub to Kansas City, Missouri, another job might be to fly 8,000 lbs of tools from Little Rock, Arkansas to your hub... you can customize the list to provide a lot of jobs or only a hand full at a time. And there is some strategy to route planning because your aircraft use fuel and fly these routes in real time so you wouldnt want to Fly someone from your hub to Kansas City to drop off computer parts then dead head to Albuquerque to pick up the car parts to bring them back to your hub. But perhaps the coolest thing about Air Hauler, lets say you assign your pilots 10 flights and you pick up a flight from your Hub to Atlanta carrying 7500 lbs of animal feed. When you fuel up the plane, load the cargo and hit fly... Air Hauler launches FSX with the appropriate aircraft, fuel load and weight and balance AND it inserts your AI aircraft complete with the custom tail numbers and they will be flying the routes within FSX you assigned them. when you reach your destination, simply accept the pop up to unload cargo and air hauler comes to the forefront where you can load the next cargo for the next run, get paid for the job you just completed, pay for your fuel and refuel the aircraft. it gives FSX "purpose" - Air hauler two is expected to release soon

2. Saitek Yoke, Rudder and Throttle quadrant: One of the best things i did for my FS Experience was buy this thing. Since i find myself flying very few HOTAS fighter aircraft i thought what is the purpose of my flying this 737 around with a basic joystick and fighter pilot throttle? The yoke and throttle quadrant added so much more of a feel of flying a real airplane that i cant do without it now. plus, it has several buttons for autopilot disconnect, starter 1 and 2, fuel flow 1 and 2, gear up, gear down, flaps up and down etc etc all rocker switches on the throttle quadrant, all levers etc are customizable - it rocks

3. Track IR: as previously mentioned by Oldairmal - the track IR is as close to on screen virtual reality as you can get until we all spring for the "oculus rift" simply put on a baseball cap with a small reflective spot on the bill, and clip the small IR sensor to the top of your monitor and you are done. Its like having perpetual mouse look enabled only instead of moving the mouse to look down at the radio stack or look over out of the window... you just turn your head. It actually is very natural feeling and works quite well.

4. FSReal WX Lite: this is a great program for loading real world weather into FSX... like an idiot, i always wondered why my FSX real world weather was never quite like what was actually being seen out my window of my home... one day i landed in the middle of a violent thunderstorm and noticed that the real world weather report for that airport was clear and clean... thats when i googled it and realized DUH... real world weather support ended a LONG time ago. FSReal WX Lite will read out every single weather reporting station within something like 50 miles of your aircraft and adjust each accordingly in real time in game... the result is some fairly realistic weather that adds a bit of challenge to each flight.

5. FS Dream Team Ground Services: i love this little addition because whether you fly a cessna 150 or a 737 it applies and modifies itself to meet the needs of the aircraft. a marshaller with wands will marshal you to parking spot, baggage loaders with animated ground crew will load bags onto the conveyor belt, caterers will drive up and load your plane up with snacks and cola, the flight attendant will greet passengers as they board... its very immersive especially when you routinely fly airliners. while mostly eye candy... it lends more realism to airline operations because you dont just jump in and start up, push back and takeoff. You have to order fuel, catering, request baggage loading to start and passenger boarding to start etc so you could literally be waiting there for 5 minutes running through your pre start activities while all this happens

6. Get yourself a first officer: No - not one of these voice activated programs... a real one. even though i have not done this in a very long time... FSX has left and right seat capability, you can also hand over the controls on multi crew flights. So setup a flight from Atlanta, Georgia to Las Vegas Nevada in your Delta Airlines 737 and fly one leg out and one leg in... the FO will fly it there and you handle radios or whatever and then switch where you fly the next leg. this is great when you have a mic on both ends because you can engage in idle chit chat, or run check lists back and forth, make speed calls etc with a real person

7. hand fly the aircraft. Its super easy in real life and its super easy in the sim to fire up "george" and let the automation do the flying while you gawk out the window at the neat new scenery pack you just downloaded. Nothing wrong with this, but set yourself a rule... i normally do airline flights... so my rule of thumb i follow is that unless nasty weather or some other factor makes the flight particularly a challenge - I'm hand flying the aircraft trough 10,000 ft in the climb before George clocks in. generally i will take over well before my final vector to an approach and hand fly the final vectors and join the localizer and glideslope by hand all the way to the numbers. this is much more fun when you combine this with the yoke and throttle and rudder pedals.

8. Master a new aircraft... every FSX player out there has a go to aircraft they operate more than any other in the hangar. for me, the American Airlines new paint schemed 737-800 is my bread and butter, next to her is the wings of power B-17G Flying Fortress followed by Carenado Cessna 152... red with wheel pants. The point is, when i transition to the B-17 with her super realistic systems and interactive crew... there are a lot of things that dont apply to her like they would the 737. Not only do i have to rearrange my throttle quadrant to that of a 4 engine heavy bomber, but i had to learn how to start the damned thing :lol: what the nuances of her engines were, how it handled etc. This is especially true of A2A brand payware aircraft because their engines wear out in game and you have to overhaul them, change their oil and filters, change their tires, fuel them up because A2A's aircraft will "save state" within FSX how many engine hours, how much fuel, switch positions etc so when you hop in your B-17 or your Cessna 172 in a few days... it will have the exact same amount of fuel you left it with. some aircraft from A2A you actually have to go through their preflight inspection as parts will wear out and fail in flight. Some of the A2A aircraft allow you passengers, so when my pretend american airlines 737 captain bids two weeks vacation, he goes down to the flight museum in Galveston, Texas and sends the B-17 on a three or four day airshow tour throughout the southeastern USA... or he loads a blond into his Cessna 172 and flys her to a weekend in the Bahamas

9. hand plan and navigate: Sometimes when i feel like going low and slow i will fire up skyvector.com on my laptop and set it next to me on the computer desk... i will plan a vfr flight down low and slow. No GPS wizardry allowed. i have to find that little town i chose as a checkpoint, or that funny shaped lake or crooked S turn in a highway - most of the things on a sectional chart like the online sectionals at skyvector are actually in the sim so when you fly over the little black box on the chart that says "Factory" if you look down in FSX there is very likely to be some sort of representation of a factory there. Its pretty rewarding to hand fly the little Carenado Cessna 152 from northern California to Long Beach using flight following and a good old fashioned chart because not only will it put the flying skills to the test and make sure you are up to speed on spotting things visually, maintaining heading, correcting for crosswind and VOR navigating... but it will also sharpen those skills.

10. Turn it off for a while. this is the lowest cost and one of the more effective ways to keep FSX fresh. just turn it off. for just 2 or three days play something else and completely ignore her. Absence makes the heart grow fonder they say
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Re: Need help...

Postby Fozzer » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:28 am

...the trouble is.... ;) ....

...with all the above, you will still be sat in your comfy chair, looking at a computer screen, and pretending to fly an "aircraft" by moving a group of coloured pixels around the screen with a hand-held device!

I do the same thing with my shoot-em-up computer games....but its still fantasy-land!

We little boys have a very vivid imagination...much to the dismay of our female Chums!.... :lol: ...!

I have to remind myself, every now and again, in the real world....just how daft it all is!.... :lol: ...!

Paul.....I'm going to pretend to mow the garden lawn in a minute!... :lol: ...!
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Re: Need help...

Postby Flying Trucker » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:41 am

Good morning all... :dance:

Wow...first of all thanks for the many replies... :whistle:

There is a lot of information in the above posts and I need to read all of the posts again, perhaps after breakfast... ;)

One of our children told me my problem is that I am too used to going out and jumping into a real aircraft and navigating around the turnip patch.

Trying to compare a real flight with a simulated flight without a lot of Payware and Motion needs a lot of imagination.

When I started off with FS98, 2000, 2002, FS2004 and finally FSX I only used the programs for some IFR practice with approaches.

Well it is time for breakfast but again thanks for all the commentaries and your time... :clap:
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