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what's going on?¡ another 777 from Malasian airlines crash in the ukranian border?



did the other missing 777 airplane was found? what's going on?

Alex

They are reports of the airliner being shot down

CHUCK79 wrote:They are reports of the airliner being shot down

Indeed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28354856

We don't know what has caused this crash. Early news is usually wrong.

We do know it's a tragedy and I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't extend deepest sympathies to all those bereaved.

From ABC News:
U.S. officials have confirmed to several media outlets that the Malaysia Airlines passenger plane that crashed near the Ukraine-Russia border Thursday was shot down by a surface-to-air missile.

The origin of the missile remained unclear and a both government officials and pro-Russia separatists fighting in the region denied responsibility.

The number of fatalities in the crash was not immediately clear.

There were 295 people on board, 280 passengers and 15 crew members. Ukrainian authorities told U.S. Embassy officials that everyone on the plane was "believed dead" and that the aircraft debris was scatted over a 10-mile swath of land, ABC News reported.

This is out now, interesting the independent Investigative work & research that's went into this since, and whats starting to appear now.

In the Video, you can clearly see what appears to be holes in the Pilots side cockpit, many holes, bullitt holes and a huge hole just below the window.

They say a SU-25 was flying by, near the Passenger Airliner at the time.

But, foreign military are disputing reports of that, claiming that the SU-25can't Fly that high, and 1 investigative researcher has found flight criteria has been altered even from Search engines like Google as to the S-25's Flight capabilities / Altitude performance / ?? ummmm

Which led me to another alternate source idea - since most Simulated Aircraft / Flight Simulator designers get their info from books, or actual info from aircraft mfg's and or, even Google, lets see what Simviation may have & come up with

So, I called up the PINK PANTHER Investigator himself , to look into this

Typed into the search engine of simviation - SU25 and up popped the Aircraft !

next, lets read & see if theres any Specs listed with this simulated aircraft

Heres whats listed :

[ Specification ]

Dimensions
Length: 47 ft, 6 in (14.6 m)
Width: 50 ft, 10 in (15.6 m)
Height: 15 ft, 9 in (4.80 m) -- Su-25K
Weights
Empty: 20,944 lb (9500 kg) equpped -- Su-25K
Maximum Takeoff: 38,801 (17600 kg) -- Su-25K
Powerplant
Two MNPK 'Soyuz' Tumanski R-195 turbojets rated at 9,921 lb (44,1 kN) each
Performance
Max Speed: 0.8 Mach
***** Ceiling: 32,800ft *****
Range: N/A
Armament
***** Cannon - 1 GSh-6-N-30 "30mm rotary AS-7/9/11/12, AA-8 Aphid", FAB-250, UV-32-57, FAB-500, 500kg LGB, FAB-250

Foreign military say the aircraft can't go above 20,000 feet ??

Yet, someone back in 2008 who made the simulated Aircraft somehow found info that its capable of flying at - 32,800 feet ~ !!!

and was or is Equipped with 30mm Cannons

Now, heres the link for the VIDEO to watch, which brings into Question about all this

worth watching, the interviews from those who saw the Aircraft go down and from those guarding the site and reporters.







http://rtd.rt.com/info/mh17/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuoIw3jBV4g[/youtube]

Jetranger wrote:In the Video, you can clearly see what appears to be holes in the Pilots side cockpit, many holes, bullitt holes and a huge hole just below the window.

Bullet holes, particularly at 30000 feet with target at high speed wouldn't be clustered in a local area.

Surface to Air Missiles, designed to fragment and send a cloud of shrapnel towards the fuselage of an aeroplane, causing catastrophic damage, would do.

C wrote:

Jetranger wrote:In the Video, you can clearly see what appears to be holes in the Pilots side cockpit, many holes, bullitt holes and a huge hole just below the window.

Bullet holes, particularly at 30000 feet with target at high speed wouldn't be clustered in a local area.

Surface to Air Missiles, designed to fragment and send a cloud of shrapnel towards the fuselage of an aeroplane, causing catastrophic damage, would do.

Another journalist who sees what he wants to see.......... Also, it is an airliner, a pressurised tube that it a sitting duck, so why on earth would the pilot "cleverly" target the cockpit.....


Matt