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Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:37 am
by Flying Trucker
Goodly morning all.... <<u

I spent several hours yesterday without much success trying to find Links and some Downloads for the following:

-Non Military radial engine aircraft from between World War One and World War Two

-either a radial engine mono or biplane from that era and again non military

-I really like the small civilian bugsmashers and would like to find a Download of one that works in Microsoft FSX

-a good virtual cockpit would be awesome also

-the aircraft could either be on wheels or floats...does not really matter and have one or two engines

-I typed in Fairchild Aircraft and found a Link showing an aircraft that used both an inline and radial engine but not much information on that aircraft...also tried Miles Aircraft and found nothing that I was looking for and I am sure Miles must have produced a civilian light trainer or tour aircraft equipped with a radial engine produced between the World War One and World War Two

-did not put this in Aircraft Wanted Forum as I would like to have some Links if possible however if the Moderators feels this post should be moved...you certainly have my blessings ;)

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:03 am
by Bass
I found a story on one here, but no plane!

http://www.ww1aeroinc.org/files/Skyways102PB.pdf

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:17 am
by Flying Trucker
Thanks for the Link Kurt...lots of good reading there... ;)

There were a lot of Racing Aircraft built in the 30s but I am really interested in the fly around the cabbage patch tour aircraft or old fashioned bug smasher... :lol:

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:03 pm
by Hagar
FlyingTrucker wrote:Goodly morning all.... <<u

I spent several hours yesterday without much success trying to find Links and some Downloads for the following:

-Non Military radial engine aircraft from between World War One and World War Two

-either a radial engine mono or biplane from that era and again non military

-I really like the small civilian bugsmashers and would like to find a Download of one that works in Microsoft FSX

-a good virtual cockpit would be awesome also

-the aircraft could either be on wheels or floats...does not really matter and have one or two engines

-I typed in Fairchild Aircraft and found a Link showing an aircraft that used both an inline and radial engine but not much information on that aircraft...also tried Miles Aircraft and found nothing that I was looking for and I am sure Miles must have produced a civilian light trainer or tour aircraft equipped with a radial engine produced between the World War One and World War Two

The Southern Martlet is the only Miles light aircraft that I can think of with a radial engine. The only surviving airworthy example is at Old Warden. http://www.shuttleworth.org/shuttleworth-collection/aircraft-details.asp?ID=21 I don't know of any FS version.*

One Shuttleworth aircraft that is available is Ted Cook's little Comper Swift. It's for FS9 but works in FSX. The prop texture might need a tweak. http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=comper+swift&x=11&y=13

You could also try the excellent native FSX BA Swallow. Great fun! http://www.britsim.com/index.php/en/files-top/Aircraft---Civil/BASWALLOW-FSX/
I can't find it at SimV.

*PS. I forgot the Miles Satyr. FS9 model by Ted Cook here --> http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=satyr&x=23&y=11

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:13 pm
by Jetranger
Well, I have this Lockheed Starliner that actually decent, tho on mine I repainted it, and repainted the interior and added some additional panel gauges, this does come with a VC too !!!

the Lockheed Starliner

Link : http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=starliner&x=7&y=7

bottom of the page for FSX and next page for 2004.

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Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:24 pm
by Jetranger
Also the V1 Vultee single engine propliner, it comes with a VC too and is of decent quality

V1 VULTEE link : http://simviation.com/1/browse-Vintage-42-86


Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSslDDa4vy0

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:29 pm
by Jetranger
Also Milton Schupes Avio series propliners too

VIDEO : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJhW_6EpJk

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:31 pm
by Jetranger
The orion single engine prop plane series too

Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHm28gK_71w

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:26 pm
by Flying Trucker
Thanks ever so much Doug...will have a look at each of those Links.

Doug do you think that companies like DeHavilland and Sopwith were too busy with trying to obtain military contracts between the wars to build a light aircraft for flying clubs and the general public as I am sure there were lots of engines available after the First World War.

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:29 pm
by Flying Trucker
Thanks Jet...will have a look at each of those Links... ;)

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:46 pm
by Flying Trucker
Hi Doug... <<u

I see there were only six (6) Miles Southern Martlets built.

There were forty-five (45) Comper Swifts built.

For the B. A Swallow there were one hundred and thirty-five (135) built.

Only one (1) Miles Satyr built.

I understood aviation was on the upswing in Great Britain after the First World War. It would seem with the numbers of light aircraft produced there was a lack of interest in aviation during the 1920s and 1930s in Great Britain.

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:56 pm
by PhantomTweak
How about the Cessna 195, "The last Cessna to maintain the pre-war tradition of the radial engine. "

Or the Lockheed Electra? "FS2004 NORTHWEST LOCKHEED L-10A ELECTRA,
registration NC14935, 1934 livery." I realize '34 is pushing the start of WWar II...

Or peraps the DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver2? Or maybe The Douglas DC-3? The Fairchild FC-2 (
Fairchild FC-2W2.zip)? The Ford Tri-motor?

Or were you thinking of only British-made aircraft? ??? ???

My home state is the state of confusion... :D

All of the above were DL'd from here or Avsim...

Pat☺

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:03 am
by Hagar
FlyingTrucker wrote:Thanks ever so much Doug...will have a look at each of those Links.

Doug do you think that companies like DeHavilland and Sopwith were too busy with trying to obtain military contracts between the wars to build a light aircraft for flying clubs and the general public as I am sure there were lots of engines available after the First World War.

Hi Doug. You specifically asked for radial engined types. Small radial engines have never been popular in this country. The only small radials produced in any numbers were the various types of Pobjoy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pobjoy_Airmotors

De Havilland & Miles Aircraft produced a whole range of training & touring aircraft between the wars but they were all powered with either Gipsy or Cirrus air-cooled inline engines. The DH Moth range of light aircraft was the most popular. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Moth
A small number of Moths were powered by the Armstong Siddely Genet radial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Siddeley_Genet

The first Gipsy engines were a development of the Renault 8G V8 which powered a number of WWI aircraft. These engines & spares were readily available on the surplus market at the end of WWI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_70_hp

I understood aviation was on the upswing in Great Britain after the First World War. It would seem with the numbers of light aircraft produced there was a lack of interest in aviation during the 1920s and 1930s in Great Britain.

The period between the two World Wars is referred to as the "Golden Age"of aviation. However, aircraft production in the UK has always been much lower compared with the US mainly because of the difference in size of the two countries. Aircraft ownership was confined to the wealthy. Aviation has always been an expensive hobby & the ordinary person simply could not afford it.

Sopwith aircraft were mostly rotary engined. The company folded in 1920 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Aviation_Company
& Tom Sopwith with Harry Hawker, Fred Sigrist and Bill Eyre, immediately formed H.G. Hawker Engineering, forerunner of the Hawker Aircraft and Hawker Siddeley lineage. Hawker Aviation was mainly concerned with military aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Aircraft

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:50 am
by Flying Trucker
Hi Pat...thanks for the reply...much appreciated.

I was looking for aircraft with radial engines between the First and Second World Wars and the good old Cessna 195 came out in 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_195

There is some interesting reading when I looked up the aircraft types you posted... ;)

Re: Wanted...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:49 am
by Flying Trucker
Good afternoon Doug... :D

Thanks for your reply and those wonderful Links. I am still going through the Links and finding additional information of much interest to me.
After reading through a Link I sometimes remember about reading the very same information in a book at the Old Homestead in the Library... :doh:

The Link on Pobjoy Airmotors was quite interesting and I am going to see what else I can find on that company.

The Link on the Armstrong Siddeley Genet led me to the Westland Widgeon which makes me wonder why that project was not researched and carried on further. It looked like a wonderful type of aircraft although underpowered and in need of a larger radial engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_W ... fixed_wing)

The read on the Renault engine was interesting and will do a little more research because of the excessive use of the fuel/air mixture used for cooling was interesting.

Canada with it's small population (and we would like to keep it that way) :lol: has followed it's own aviation path and like England I suppose has had it's aviation technology lost or curtailed because of political interference.

Alas I do not remember all the stories both my grandfathers would tell around the kitchen table but the years leading up to the First World War and the years between the two World Wars seemed to be the pinnacle of aviation for them.

They both came from Cavalry Units and transferred to the Royal Flying Corps at the outbreak of the war. Like my father they seldom talked about either World Wars and their exploits.

For me the mid 1950's and early 1960's were wonderful years in Canada for aviation and float/seaplane bases and grass strips were everywhere.

I find some of our older members at the Royal Canadian Legion or even our local bugsmasher field have forgotten information that I wished they had passed down. :pray:
It is hard to get that information back and some of the information on the internet is not always complete or accurate.

Will be going to the bugsmasher field tomorrow for a visit but today my foot and leg are still just too sore to put a lot of weight on.
Hoping to pick some of those Old Retired Rocking Chair Flying Geezers brains about the types of DeHavilland of Canada Tiger Moths they flew here as one chap told me several years ago he flew the Tiger Moth with a radial engine and a enclosed cockpit right here in Canada.

It was probably on skis with heat in the cockpit but not sure.

Well thanks for the Links and information Doug...Have a Great Day... ;)