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Postby beaky » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:24 pm

Hence the popularity of these "reality" shows. An oxymoron if ever I saw one. ::)
Right with you on that one. What's candid about a bunch of narcissists backbiting one another on TV for cash?

And regarding Rommel: if my spotty knowledge of history serves, Rommel was one of many under Hitler's command who had the courage to express serious doubts about the legitimacy of his government's aggression, and the strategies that were employed. I guess being a fine warrior was more a point of personal pride with him than a political thing.


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Postby jordonj » Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:28 pm

Hence why I watch less TV these days...
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Postby C » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:57 pm

I read the German Government now wants to ban the use of Swastikas across Europe...

...Looks like all the aviation musuems will have to start eradicating history again if they have a collection of german aircraft, and would this also mean that if I had pictures of WW2 German aircraft/uniforms/flags etc (in books/paintings/photos) would I have to destroy them?

The worlds going mad, can't they think of something more useful to do...
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Postby Hagar » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:16 pm

I read the German Government now wants to ban the use of Swastikas across Europe...

...Looks like all the aviation musuems will have to start eradicating history again if they have a collection of german aircraft, and would this also mean that if I had pictures of WW2 German aircraft/uniforms/flags etc (in books/paintings/photos) would I have to destroy them?

The worlds going mad, can't they think of something more useful to do...

The exact same thought had occurred to me. You cannot change history by banning logos & emblems no matter how offensive they might be, In fact, this incident might prove that it has the opposite effect. I'm not Jewish & didn't suffer in WWII myself but I would be most offended to see people marching around in the streets wearing Nazi swastika armbands. I can't say that I've ever been offended by the same symbol on a vintage aircraft.

I would have mentioned it earlier when I first heard about it but thought it more prudent not to stir this up. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4178643.stm

PS. Note it's not the German government but a group of politicians in the European Parliament.
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Postby ozzy72 » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:50 pm

EMP=European Member of Parliament Extremely Moronic Pillock ;D
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Postby Hagar » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:11 pm

EMP=European Member of Parliament Extremely Moronic Pillock ;D

From what I've seen of our lot I have to agree. Unfortunately we're increasingly ruled by these pillocks. Oops, hush my mouth. ::) I've already said far too much. :-X
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Postby C » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:22 pm

PS. Note it's not the German government but a group of politicians in the European Parliament.


Ceefax said it was the German Christian Democrat party... but they're often wrong... ::)
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Postby ozzy72 » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:23 pm

Talking about pillocks is not political Doug, talking about EMPs is ;D ;)
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Postby Hagar » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:27 pm

Talking about pillocks is not political Doug, talking about EMPs is ;D ;)

Thanks for clarifying that. ;)

Can't say I could put a name to one of our EMPs offhand. ::) I could name plenty of pillocks - but I won't. LOL ;D
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Postby ozzy72 » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:32 pm

I could name plenty of pillocks - but I won't

Thanks ;) ;D :D
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Postby C » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:02 pm

Neil Pillock, he was one of them wasn't he. Or a wasn't he a commisioner...
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Postby Hagar » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:08 pm

Neil Pillock, he was one of them wasn't he. Or a wasn't he a commisioner...

LMAO.......! ;D

As a matter of interest I looked up the word "pilllock" on Dictionary.com. I rather like "pudden-head". Has a certain ring to it. :D
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n : a person who is not very bright; "The economy, stupid!" [syn: stupid, stupid person, dullard, dolt, pudding head, pudden-head, poor fish]
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Postby jordonj » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:17 pm

For me (being an Yank American)...Pillock sounds like some kind of medication...;D
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Postby C » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:27 pm

For me (being an Yank American)...Pillock sounds like some kind of medication...;D


Well, if a hillock is a small hill, a pillock must be a small pill ;)
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Postby jordonj » Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:36 pm

Hmmm...considering their behavior, maybe that's an appropriate name (who wouldn't agree that any politician can be a pill)?

I did find that book...it's called War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning.  It's written by Chris Hedges, a war correspondent that has been at it since El Salvador in the early 80's.

An Excerpt:

The enduring attraction of War is this: Even with it's destruction and carnage, it can give us what we long for in life.  It can give us purpose, meaning, a reason for living.  Only when we are in the midst of conflict does the shallowness and vapidness of our lives become apparent.  It gives us resolve, a cause.  It allows us to be noble.


It's an interesting and disturbing read.

I can't remember where this came from (the Nuemberg trials I think), a Nazi officer was quoted as saying something like:

Nobody wants war, but it's easy to herd the people into a war...all you have to do is tell them they're threatened.


Lastly, Art Spiegelman writes about a sequence where he was being interviewed about his work Maus...


A German reporter:
Lots of Germans have had it up to here with Holocaust stories.  Why should the kids of today be made to feel guilty?


Art:
I don't know...but a lot of the companies involved in the war are now richer than ever.  Maybe everyone needs to feel guilty...forever!


Sorry...these are kinda random thoughts...
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