TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:02 pm

ok after doing some further research into the voyager thingy apparently after they return home janeway apparently is promoted to admiral while picard is overlooked for the promotion. which really annoys me as then janeway gives picard orders to goto into the heart of the romulan empire with the enterprise(is that for the new movie)?? i personally dont think she should have been given it before picard as he has done so many more important things, he found kirk when they thought he was dead, he prepaired starfleet for the borg he dealt with the Q he even went further into outer space than janeway and voyager in the traveller episode where they were taken to a point where the universe hadnt even been formed yet.
i think she was just ticked that he was given the best ship starfleet had going in both the D and E models of the enterprise, i mean D was the best ship going and is prob the best ship for battle as it has unmatched weaponary especially after the upgrades for the dominion war. and the Enterprise E, what can be said other than unbelievable, quantom torpedos, new sheilding unmatched power for travel in someways its invincible:) thats why she gave him those orders :-/
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Interesting points Craig. I remember seeing somewhere that Voyager would need to cross the Gamama quadrant. I'm sure they would have used the Bajoran Wormhole had they have got that far, but after seven years of travel, Voyager never got out of the Delta Quadrant until it eventually found the Borg Transwarp Hub and got all the way home.
As for Picard not being promoted, well he turned down the chance to be an admiral in "Coming of age" deciding he was of more use to Starfleet on the bridge of the Enterprise. Also, Kirk tells him not to allow Starfleet to promote him and to do whatever it takes to keep his Starship command. Personally I think he should have taken a desk job years ago and let Ryker (who turned down promotion 3 times even after getting his fourth pip) to take the centre seat.
I would guess that Janeway was given the rank so as to reward her for getting Voyager home, intact, after being cut off from Starfleet for seven years.
What I want to know is what happened to all her crew who where not Starfleet? Chakotay, B'Elanna, Seven of Nine?
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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby Craig. » Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:13 pm

very true on the picard thing, but i think both his and rikers reasons for turning down promotion were the same, they could both have had better jobs riker could have had his own ship in the middle of nowhere but it would have been his, or serve on the flag ship but only as a commander and same for picard simply put being the guy in charge of the flag ship is considered the top captain in starfleet and like you said kirk told him not to let it go.
as for the way voyager ended although its frustrating not to know what happens next i still think it was the best ending to a series yet for that very reason
do you remember the way the next generation series ended? because i dont think it actually did, but was considered over when NCC1701D was destroyed
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Postby Craig. » Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:33 pm

well i am truely bored after more research another reason for the long time frame to reach earth is because voyager cannot sustain warp 9.975 for long periods of time as the warp coils tend to burn out
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Postby Craig. » Wed Apr 23, 2003 1:28 pm

ok even with broadband this took over half an hour to get but i got the demo which thankfully had the route map of voyager so here ya go

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surprisingly it doesnt go past the wormhole but would have prob worked out quicker to go that way
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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:14 pm

Ah, I see now what you ment about the Bajoran Wormhole Craig. Yes you are right it would have been quicker to take that route. I also got my Gamma and Beta Quadrants mixed up. It is of course the Bata and not the Gamma quadrant that Voyager needed to pass through.
I agree that "End Game" was the best last show. The DS9 final was good in bits and the Next Gen's "All Good Things" was good with that future Enterprise destroying those klingon ships with that huge phaser cannon!
I think it would be nice to see some DS9 and Voyager cast in a future Trek movie.
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Postby Craig. » Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:20 pm

i think voyagers final episodes would have been a really good option for a movie with a few modifications, i dont think DS9 though would be a good choice for one.
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Postby phil509 » Wed Apr 23, 2003 4:57 pm

i think voyagers final episodes would have been a really good option for a movie with a few modifications, i dont think DS9 though would be a good choice for one.

I'd like to see more emphasis on Klingons,and the klingon empire.How about a story line where the Klingons deal the Borg their final defeat,in glorios battle,with co-operation of the Federation of course?By the way,you know how some folks have a plastic Jesus on the dashboard of their "shuttlecraft",well,I have a Klingon.LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!! 8)
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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Thu Apr 24, 2003 10:08 am

I'd like to see more emphasis on Klingons,and the klingon empire.How about a story line where the Klingons deal the Borg their final defeat,in glorios battle,with co-operation of the Federation of course?By the way,you know how some folks have a plastic Jesus on the dashboard of their "shuttlecraft",well,I have a Klingon.LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!! 8)


That sounds like a great idea. I'd like to see the Klingons beat up on the Borg.
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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby Professor Brensec » Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:33 am

I definitely hope that there will be more in the way of feature movies. It seems that the obsession has been with TOS and NG, as far as the movies are concerned but as has been said, why not a movie involving the DS9 people and the Station or indeed a continuation of Voyager in the form of a movie. It would be a good opportunity to cover what happened to the "Marquis" crew members. Although I suspect that with all the accomplishments of Belana and Chikote etc, especially all the times they were singularly responsible for saving the lives of the entire crew and the ship, plus saving planets etc, they would have been given pardons for whatever they may have done against Federation Law.
I'm sure they weren't guilty of anything really bad like murder (although they may have killed the odd Cardie in self defence).

Thanks for the look at the map, Craig. It served a couple of purpose for me. Firstly I never knew that the Romulan and Klingon Empires were just inside the Beta Quadrant (although I somehow knew that Earth was near the border between the A & B). Secondly, even though they journey via the Gamma Quadrant and then through the Wormhole to Bajor, may have bben a bit longer (although it seems pretty close), one advantage would have been that it looks like they would have avoided Borg Space (even though they didn't know where it was at the time they set out).

P.S. One of my favourite characters is "Q". I'd like to see another movie in which he plays a good sized role.
Maybe a good plot would be where he lobs on Earth some time after the Voyager crew has come home and, being his usual mischievous self, he takes them all back to the Delta quadrant (in Voyager) and for a while, at least, it seems the hole thing is about to start again.

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Re: TO ALL TREKIES AND/OR TREKERS (must read)

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:00 am

I quite like the "Q" movie idea brensec pal. I really think a future movie should at least make use of some characters from Voyager and DS9. With Ryker, Crusher, Troi and Data leaving the Enterprise, wouldn't it be a good idea to have some DS9/Voyager crew replace them?
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