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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Ivan » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:06 pm

I note you have a Honda auto. You don't say which size engine this has. Most American cars have much larger capacity engines than those used in Europe which tend to be more economical. Whatever the capacity you can improve the fuel consumption considerably by anticipation (slowing down gradually when approaching traffic lights etc.) & driving less aggressively. If you have a heavy right foot you can watch that fuel indicator needle go down very quickly & this doesn't really get you anywhere. How often have you seen someone zoom past you only to draw up alongside him at the next set of traffic lights?

2.4 litre inline-4 or a 3 litre v6

Interesting subject, lights on during the day. Germany is thinking of making it a requirement to make drivers put lights on during the day. I have heard that your fuel consumption is increased by 3% when you have your lights on. Now 3% is not much in the small picture, but in the bigger one, 30+ million vehicles on the road, that is quite a lot of extra CO2 when all are telling us how much we should cut down. A bit ironic me thinks.

Latest Audis have LED rings in the headlights, BMW is going that way too

Interesting. Some manufacturers like Volvo have incorporated permanent daytime lights into their cars for years. These are linked to the ignition so you can't drive without the headlights on. If you see a car with its headlights on in broad daylight you can bet your boots it's a Volvo. I've read that it's possible to disable this but I wonder how many Volvo owners are aware of it. http://www.dadrl.org.uk/volvodrldisable.html

Huo much easier is mine (saab 9-3)... magic fuse #15. Doesnt even matter anymore on the latest models as these have LED running lights.
And AFAIK on the 850 (or was that before that...) they had those divided blinkers with a white and an orange section. the white section was the running lights on these


My new (to me) Jazz is the first car I've had with A/C & it appears to be either ON or OFF
Computer box regulates it, button only tells the computer to start doing its job. theres a valve in the circuit that opens and closes depending on temperature, only when the thing needs to be pumped the pump on the engine starts working.

And that whole story has more use in the USA where for some reason a sporty car needs a V6 that produces half the power of the 4-cylinder unit they put in the euro version
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby TacitBlue » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:46 pm

Speaking of gas milage, I just saw a news report about a guy who converted his car to run on water! This lead me to do a lttle internet research and I came up with this website:http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster.html Of course this wouldn't make the car run entirely on water, but if it can save any gas at all, it would be worth it. I remember when I was taking a class on aircraft batteries, we learned that batteries produce hydrogen as byproduct and I thought right then, why not collect that hydrogen for use in hydrogen cars? Well, I guess I wasn't the only person to think of it. ;) I have an old S-10 pickup that needs some work and I think that I would like to first get it running and then try this hydrogen boost thing on it. If it works, then maybe I'll make it work with my Honda that I drive every day. The Honda already gets pretty good gas milage, to improve on that would be very much worth it.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Mushroom_Farmer » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:15 pm

Speaking of gas milage, I just saw a news report about a guy who converted his car to run on water! This lead me to do a lttle internet research and I came up with this website:http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster.html Of course this wouldn't make the car run entirely on water, but if it can save any gas at all, it would be worth it. I remember when I was taking a class on aircraft batteries, we learned that batteries produce hydrogen as byproduct and I thought right then, why not collect that hydrogen for use in hydrogen cars? Well, I guess I wasn't the only person to think of it. ;) I have an old S-10 pickup that needs some work and I think that I would like to first get it running and then try this hydrogen boost thing on it. If it works, then maybe I'll make it work with my Honda that I drive every day. The Honda already gets pretty good gas milage, to improve on that would be very much worth it.


Looks fishy to me. Why not just install a water injection system and be done with it?
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby commoner » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:03 am

...mmm.....talking of using water as fuel in engines reminds me of that old chestnut the "soap bubble" engine........for the few uninformed, look at this.....what a concept if it worked......commoner ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2787320  

LOL....love the "underpants" test for fuel strength.... :P
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Fozzer » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:08 am

Speaking of gas milage, I just saw a news report about a guy who converted his car to run on water! This lead me to do a lttle internet research and I came up with this website:http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster.html Of course this wouldn't make the car run entirely on water, but if it can save any gas at all, it would be worth it. I remember when I was taking a class on aircraft batteries, we learned that batteries produce hydrogen as byproduct and I thought right then, why not collect that hydrogen for use in hydrogen cars? Well, I guess I wasn't the only person to think of it. ;) I have an old S-10 pickup that needs some work and I think that I would like to first get it running and then try this hydrogen boost thing on it. If it works, then maybe I'll make it work with my Honda that I drive every day. The Honda already gets pretty good gas milage, to improve on that would be very much worth it.


Looks fishy to me.......


There you go...

Another excellent idea from Mushroom....

Why not run your engines on...FISH.... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]...!

Fish Oil..... Kippers, Sardines, Mackerel, etc, are all good for Humans, so why not for engines..?

The Oceans pf the World are full of Krill, so why not pull up at your favourite Fish Station and shovel some Krill onto your fuel tank...;)...!

It would also remove the necessity for adding Lubricating Oil to the Sump....a self lubricating Fuel?

The smell of Fish can be no worse than the smell of Diesel?... ::)...!

Driving in Fog would be no problem....
....you just follow the smell of Smoked Kippers in front of you!... :)...!

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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby TacitBlue » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:48 pm

Did you guys even read it? ::) The water isn't injected into the cylinders and burned, it's split into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis. The hydrogen and oxygen mix is added to the carburetor to be burned with the regular fuel and air mixture.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Mushroom_Farmer » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:31 pm

Did you guys even read it? ::) The water isn't injected into the cylinders and burned, it's split into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis. The hydrogen and oxygen mix is added to the carburetor to be burned with the regular fuel and air mixture.

So they say. ::) I also see advertisements in the newspaper peddling a device that will increase my fuel mileage by 22%.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby beaky » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:20 pm

The best secret to better fuel mileage is to not drive like you're going to a fire.
I'm amazed to see that despite fuel prices, everyone still seems to be averaging 75 mph in their behemoth SUVs and big-block sports cars...  :-?
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Katahu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:21 pm

I'm amazed to see that despite fuel prices, everyone still seems to be averaging 75 mph in their behemoth SUVs and big-block sports cars...  


Either they're rich enough to afford gas [for the moment] or they just don't care.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Brett_Henderson » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:43 pm

In a perverted, delayed way... gas is really just catching up with inflation. It's been ridiculously low for so long, we got spoiled.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby H » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:05 am

I'm amazed to see that despite fuel prices, everyone still seems to be averaging 75 mph in their behemoth SUVs and big-block sports cars...
This may be in part because the vehicles have changed but drivers haven't. My old Monte Carlo with a 4-barrel on a 400 cu.in. engine got best high-speed fuel economy between 65 to 75 miles per hour. Beyond 75 mph it dropped dramatically and it got worse gas milage below 65 until about 40 mph where it increased again; no matter what speed, kicking in the two large venturies -- what economy? That was for that car, with that engine configuration and this driver... most other vehicles I've driven of late, although they may match or exceed that vehicle's best gas milage, get worse fuel economy at faster speeds.


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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby commoner » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:17 am

In a perverted, delayed way... gas is really just catching up with inflation. It's been ridiculously low for so long, we got spoiled.


                          1968                   2008
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Nice car               $2,500                $25,000

Gallon of gas        $0.38                  $3.80


That's probably why the roads are still full.. and full of speedy drivers, to boot.  Extra big screen TVs and vacation homes will be sacrificed before people give up the "right" to drive, any time they feel like it ..

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...LMAO...but not smiling.........substitute $3.80/gallon with $10.30/gallon and rising............UK latest price where I live and even higher in other parts...and STILL there are cars screaming down the fast lane at anything up to 120mph..........commoner ::)
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Katahu » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:41 pm

This is what I like to call "revenge of the nerds".

While the big bullies and sports jockies speed down the highways with big trucks and SUVs with habits that drop their car's economy to less than 15 MPG, us nerds are driving is small, more compact cars with habits that just up the car's economy to over 50 MPG.

Who's feeling the wedgies now? ;D
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby TacitBlue » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:54 pm

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So they say. ::) I also see advertisements in the newspaper peddling a device that will increase my fuel mileage by 22%.
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Re: HYPERMILING

Postby Craig. » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:17 pm

As a little experiment, mainly after a message from Doug, I decided to see what I could get as an absolute best, now usually I do motorway driving at about 80mph average which runs the engine at 3200 RPM, that gets me about 80 miles at most from a qtr of a tank of fuel.
during my trip to and from shawbury I averaged 70mph on the motorways at about 2700rpm, and I got 125 miles out of a qtr of a tank.
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