Renunciation of citizenship??

[Leigh]

i just called defense jobs and they weren't really any help. they said that once your in you are assigned a case manager and then its done on a case by case situation (don't know if that's the right word but i cant think right now) hmm :S

[Fozzer]

[quote]....... And the ability to capitalize the word "I".....

[an-225]

Not to hijack your thread Leigh, but this seems like an appropriate place to ask -

is it any easier to acquire British citizenship if you are a Commonwealth - in my case, Australian - citizen? I intend to join the RAF. I can in theory study at a university in the UK for several years, until I meet the requirements for citizenship through naturalisation, but that would take a very long time...

[ozzy72]

As a Commonwealth citizen you can join the RAF without any problems. If you wish to be naturalised then I think you have to have lived here with a visa for 2 years before you can apply.

[Hagar]

You don't have to renounce any citizenship unless you're being commissioned. You can actually serve as an enlisted personnel without an US Citizenship.

...and as for getting it back, US Citizenship is not as difficult as many foreign countries, but it is still quite difficult. I wouldn't recommend it.

P.S. USAF, I don't know anything about the RAAF.

Thats my problem ATM if i do "give it up" i dont want to see that 3 years later that i didnt get in a pilot seat and i wont be able to get my US citizenship back so yer its a hard one

The point is that all pilots in the USAF are commissioned officers so to become a pilot you need to to be a US citizen.

Not sure what you mean about getting your US citizenship back. Changing nationality is a serious business & a lifetime commitment. IMHO

Before thinking about joining the RAF or any other foreign air force perhaps you should check the situation regarding pilot selection & if they actually need any aircrew. http://www.profpilot.co.uk/articles/starting-out-questions/how-to-become-a-pilot-in-the-raf/

[Leigh]

You don't have to renounce any citizenship unless you're being commissioned. You can actually serve as an enlisted personnel without an US Citizenship.

...and as for getting it back, US Citizenship is not as difficult as many foreign countries, but it is still quite difficult. I wouldn't recommend it.

P.S. USAF, I don't know anything about the RAAF.

Thats my problem ATM if i do "give it up" i dont want to see that 3 years later that i didnt get in a pilot seat and i wont be able to get my US citizenship back so yer its a hard one

The point is that all pilots in the USAF are commissioned officers so to become a pilot you need to to be a US citizen.

Not sure what you mean about getting your US citizenship back. Changing nationality is a serious business & a lifetime commitment. IMHO

Before thinking about joining the RAF or any other foreign air force perhaps you should check the situation regarding pilot selection & if they actually need any aircrew. http://www.profpilot.co.uk/articles/starting-out-questions/how-to-become-a-pilot-in-the-raf/

well my point is that i have both so i am an aussie and an american but as i said i dont want to give up one only to find out if something bad happens i wont be able to get it back....my dilemma continues :S

[Craig.]

If your not certain then you dont do it. Simple as that.
Not only is the whole citizenship thing a long term commitment, but the job your wanting to do is that too. I dont know what the USAF has as their minimum service commitment these days but I cant imagine it being less than 10 years. I think once you've commited to that much time in a job/country your unlikely to want to leave either anyway.
Is there a particular reason you want to join the USAF?

[H]

The shortest hitch for any USAF field has been 4 years or a 6-year hitch for early advancement (and a 2-year total on-call reserve term); potential pilot officers have additional training and service terms for a commission.

8-)

[specter177]

I do believe that a pilot is 8-10 years minimum.

[Jeff.Guo]

...9 years, and security clearance (not easy to obtain for someone who has already voiced unwillingness to forfeit a citizenship from a foreign nation...)

[Leigh]

...9 years, and security clearance (not easy to obtain for someone who has already voiced unwillingness to forfeit a citizenship from a foreign nation...)

its not that im unwilling its just that its a HUGE choice to make, i will do anything to reach my goal but yer its a tough decision

[TacitBlue]

So is it not possible for you to be a pilot in the RAAF?

Also, it seems to me that it wouldn't be hard for you to regain Australian citizenship sense you are Australian and presumably were born in Australia.

[Leigh]

So is it not possible for you to be a pilot in the RAAF?

Also, it seems to me that it wouldn't be hard for you to regain Australian citizenship sense you are Australian and presumably were born in Australia.

well thats really where it all started. i could be a pilot in the RAAF but i would possibly lose my US citizenship. And yes i was born in Aus which is making the USAF looking better

[BigTruck]

  You could just join the Marines and we will brainwash you into wanting to be full time American    Poblem solved! 

We have pilots too, F-18, C-130, Harrier, and coming soon... JTF's!  Plus 4 varieties of helo.

[ApplePie]

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