HYPERMILING

[Fozzer]

..it's also worth remembering that a large portion of the Engines power is taken up driving the Dynamo/Generator supplying the lights during darkness, so I always turn off my headlights when stopped in a traffic queue...

...there is no point in wasting Petrol/Diesel blinding/annoying the driver in front, via his rear-view mirror, when the traffic is stationary!

Add-up the Watts consumed by all your lights, and convert that into HP (Horse Power) required by the engine... ..!

As a Motorcyclist  I ride with my headlights on for safety reasons, during daylight, but as above, I always witch them off when stationary......!

Paul.... 8-)...!

[Hagar]

..it's also worth remembering that a large portion of the Engines power is taken up driving the Dynamo/Generator supplying the lights during darkness, so I always turn off my headlights when stopped in a traffic queue...

...there is no point in wasting Petrol/Diesel blinding/annoying the driver in front, via his rear-view mirror, when the traffic is stationary!

Add-up the Watts consumed by all your lights, and convert that into HP (Horse Power) required by the engine... ..!

As a Motorcyclist  I ride with my headlights on for safety reasons, during daylight, but as above, I always switch them off when stationary......!

Paul.... 8-)...!

That's a very good point Paul. However, please don't let economy compromise safety as some motorists do. Not applicable to your motorcycle but air conditioning is the main culprit here. Most people seem to leave it on all the time nowadays. I suggest switching it off unless you really need it.

PS. I often see cars parked at the local airport on a nice day with their engines running. The occupants are sitting watching the aeroplanes with the A/C on instead of venturing outside & enjoying the sunshine. I hate to think how much this is costing in fuel.

[expat]

..it's also worth remembering that a large portion of the Engines power is taken up driving the Dynamo/Generator supplying the lights during darkness, so I always turn off my headlights when stopped in a traffic queue...

...there is no point in wasting Petrol/Diesel blinding/annoying the driver in front, via his rear-view mirror, when the traffic is stationary!

Add-up the Watts consumed by all your lights, and convert that into HP (Horse Power) required by the engine... ..!

As a Motorcyclist  I ride with my headlights on for safety reasons, during daylight, but as above, I always switch them off when stationary......!

Paul.... 8-)...!

That's a very good point Paul. However, please don't let economy compromise safety as some motorists do. Not applicable to your motorcycle but air conditioning is the main culprit here. Most people seem to leave it on all the time nowadays. I suggest switching it off unless you really need it.

PS. I often see cars parked at the local airport on a nice day with their engines running. The occupants are sitting watching the aeroplanes with the A/C on instead of venturing outside & enjoying the sunshine. I hate to think how much this is costing in fuel.

Interesting subject, lights on during the day. Germany is thinking of making it a requirement to make drivers put lights on during the day. I have heard that your fuel consumption is increased by 3% when you have your lights on. Now 3% is not much in the small picture, but in the bigger one, 30+ million vehicles on the road, that is quite a lot of extra CO2 when all are telling us how much we should cut down. A bit ironic me thinks.

Matt

[Hagar]

..it's also worth remembering that a large portion of the Engines power is taken up driving the Dynamo/Generator supplying the lights during darkness, so I always turn off my headlights when stopped in a traffic queue...

...there is no point in wasting Petrol/Diesel blinding/annoying the driver in front, via his rear-view mirror, when the traffic is stationary!

Add-up the Watts consumed by all your lights, and convert that into HP (Horse Power) required by the engine... ..!

As a Motorcyclist  I ride with my headlights on for safety reasons, during daylight, but as above, I always switch them off when stationary......!

Paul.... 8-)...!

That's a very good point Paul. However, please don't let economy compromise safety as some motorists do. Not applicable to your motorcycle but air conditioning is the main culprit here. Most people seem to leave it on all the time nowadays. I suggest switching it off unless you really need it.

PS. I often see cars parked at the local airport on a nice day with their engines running. The occupants are sitting watching the aeroplanes with the A/C on instead of venturing outside & enjoying the sunshine. I hate to think how much this is costing in fuel.

Interesting subject, lights on during the day. Germany is thinking of making it a requirement to make drivers put lights on during the day. I have heard that your fuel consumption is increased by 3% when you have your lights on. Now 3% is not much in the small picture, but in the bigger one, 30+ million vehicles on the road, that is quite a lot of extra CO2 when all are telling us how much we should cut down. A bit ironic me thinks.

Matt

Interesting. Some manufacturers like Volvo have incorporated permanent daytime lights into their cars for years. These are linked to the ignition so you can't drive without the headlights on. If you see a car with its headlights on in broad daylight you can bet your boots it's a Volvo. I've read that it's possible to disable this but I wonder how many Volvo owners are aware of it. http://www.dadrl.org.uk/volvodrldisable.html

[expat]

..it's also worth remembering that a large portion of the Engines power is taken up driving the Dynamo/Generator supplying the lights during darkness, so I always turn off my headlights when stopped in a traffic queue...

...there is no point in wasting Petrol/Diesel blinding/annoying the driver in front, via his rear-view mirror, when the traffic is stationary!

Add-up the Watts consumed by all your lights, and convert that into HP (Horse Power) required by the engine... ..!

As a Motorcyclist  I ride with my headlights on for safety reasons, during daylight, but as above, I always switch them off when stationary......!

Paul.... 8-)...!

That's a very good point Paul. However, please don't let economy compromise safety as some motorists do. Not applicable to your motorcycle but air conditioning is the main culprit here. Most people seem to leave it on all the time nowadays. I suggest switching it off unless you really need it.

PS. I often see cars parked at the local airport on a nice day with their engines running. The occupants are sitting watching the aeroplanes with the A/C on instead of venturing outside & enjoying the sunshine. I hate to think how much this is costing in fuel.

Interesting subject, lights on during the day. Germany is thinking of making it a requirement to make drivers put lights on during the day. I have heard that your fuel consumption is increased by 3% when you have your lights on. Now 3% is not much in the small picture, but in the bigger one, 30+ million vehicles on the road, that is quite a lot of extra CO2 when all are telling us how much we should cut down. A bit ironic me thinks.

Matt

Interesting. Some manufacturers like Volvo have incorporated permanent daytime lights into their cars for years. These are linked to the ignition so you can't drive without the headlights on. If you see a car with its headlights on in broad daylight you can bet your boots it's a Volvo. I've read that it's possible to disable this but I wonder how many Volvo owners are aware of it. http://www.dadrl.org.uk/volvodrldisable.html

Thats interesting too. I would imagine that it is a mixture of the people who just don't know and those who think that as it a function of the car to and turn it off would mean an MOT failure :-/

Matt

PS, I do love the names people come up with, Hypermiling.....squeezing a couple of extra miles out of a gallon is hardly hyper anything

[Hagar]

PS, I do love the names people come up with, Hypermiling.....squeezing a couple of extra miles out of a gallon is hardly hyper anything

I think they're known as buzzwords. Trendy description for bullsh*t.

I'm very satisfied with my experiment yesterday. 12 mpg might not be hyper but it's not to be sniffed at either. 8-)

[Katahu]

What name would you suggest besides "hypermiling"?

[Hagar]

What name would you suggest besides "hypermiling"?

Fuel economy or plain old-fashioned common sense.

I found this publication by the North Lanarkshire council in Scotland. Energy Saving Tips

It covers most of the important points. For example:

An aggressive driving style.
     
Fuel consumption up by 10 - 12% above average.
     
Environmental pollution 30 - 40% higher than normal.

Also note the observation on air conditioning:

The air conditioning at 50%.
     
Fuel consumption up by at least 10%.

[H]

Some manufacturers like Volvo have incorporated permanent daytime lights into their cars for years. These are linked to the ignition so you can't drive without the headlights on. If you see a car with its headlights on in broad daylight you can bet your boots it's a Volvo. I've read that it's possible to disable this* but I wonder how many Volvo owners are aware of it.

[color=#003300]Over the past five years or so, many new models over here have done this with the lights. Now a few are reverting back or just enabling the parking lamps.
According to the figures, the Stratum I rented did about 43 miles per gallon. My truck would have done about

[Hagar]

[quote]According to the figures, the Stratum I rented did about 43 miles per gallon. My truck would have done about

[H]

According to the figures, the Stratum I rented did about 43 miles per gallon.

Manufacturers performance figures can be very misleading. A lot will depend on your driving style as I proved yesterday.

I don't know the manufacturer's specs, I just divided my total travel distance by the amount of fuel I replaced -- per my driving.

Driving with your foot to the floor is not necessarily much quicker. On the average journey I've found that it might save you 5 minutes per 100 miles, if that.

Fortunately, my foot's not on a floor these days on my way to work and it isn't 100 miles away. Unlike in a (particularly, enclosed) speeding vehicle, however, I get to say hello to the horses, cattle and whatever wildlife I pass by.

*Most anything can be rewired even when not optioned, lights most certainly.

Obviously. What I meant is disabling it temporarily without affecting the manufacturer's warranty.

That depends upon how effficient you are in your alterations and reversion.

8-)

[expat]

What name would you suggest besides "hypermiling"?

Fuel economy or plain old-fashioned common sense.

I found this publication by the North Lanarkshire council in Scotland. Energy Saving Tips

It covers most of the important points. For example:

An aggressive driving style.
     
Fuel consumption up by 10 - 12% above average.
     
Environmental pollution 30 - 40% higher than normal.

Also note the observation on air conditioning:

The air conditioning at 50%.
     
Fuel consumption up by at least 10%.

I wonder when that list was last updated. Modern A/C, spends half it's time off and works in a pulse mode (at least on my car and I notice very little difference in MPG whether it is on or off). When was the last time you saw a car with quarter light (we last had them in a Triumph 2000  ;D) Rear window heaters, again timer cycle. Can't remember the last time I pulled out a choke out and 99% of drivers are not in the habit (I think) of driving about with a roof box when they don't need it.
More a case here of some one at North Lanarkshire council being a bit desperate to have a few points on a website.

Matt

[Hagar]

I wonder when that list was last updated. Modern A/C, spends half it's time off and works in a pulse mode (at least on my car and I notice very little difference in MPG whether it is on or off). When was the last time you saw a car with quarter light (we last had them in a Triumph 2000  ;D) Rear window heaters, again timer cycle. Can't remember the last time I pulled out a choke out

I noticed the bit about the quarter lights & choke. Perhaps they still have these advanced features in Scotland. [smiley=door.gif]

The basic advice is still valid. I wouldn't know about the air conditioning. Probably depends on the age of the car. We're not all in the position to have the latest models. My new (to me) Jazz is the first car I've had with A/C & it appears to be either ON or OFF. Haven't used the rear window heater yet but on my old Mazda 323 it stayed on until you switched it off.

99% of drivers are not in the habit (I think) of driving about with a roof box when they don't need it.

You obviously haven't visited my neck of the woods. People drive around here with roof racks & all sorts of stuff permanently fitted. Methinks they will be the first to complain about the price of petrol.

[Fozzer]

You obviously haven't visited my neck of the woods. People drive around here with roof racks & all sorts of stuff permanently fitted. Methinks they will be the first to complain about the price of petrol.

I noticed a huge reduction in petrol consumption when I no longer had to carry my ex Mother-in-Law around on my Austin Allegro's Roof Rack... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

Paul... ...!

[Katahu]

Oh Fozzer.