Simviation an 'Abuser Site'?

[BFMF]

he stated that he had found two of his files on SimV that were not auhorized to be here. Fair enough point, then the correct thing would be to contact Pete so that he could look into how his file got here, and if need be have them removed.

Did it ever occur to him that someone else could have uploaded it?

I sincerily doubt Pete spends his free time surfing file libraries looking for files to steal when freeware designers are uploading their addons here every day.

As for the membership issue, has he not noticed Flightsim's membership option either???

[flyboy 28]

Hehe.. I'm sending anthrax in my email.

[Pinchaser...]

I agree with PI. Remember our big troll fiasco a few months ago? the only way to kill it is not to have any communication with it. the same should go for Rana. Take a step back and watch what happens to him... .....falling. deeeper.....deeper.  ;D

[Souichiro]

[quote]I agree with PI. Remember our big troll fiasco a few months ago? the only way to kill it is not to have any communication with it. the same should go for Rana. Take a step back and watch what happens to him... .....falling. deeeper.....deeper.

[eno]

Here's my email to the afore mentioned  ****

I have just read a posting from your forums and by yourself about freeware pirates.

http://softwares.ranainside.com/forum/v ... .php?t=904

I fail to see how you can in the same posting, accuse Simviation of the same crime as FSPlanet, which throughout the FS world is known for its blatent piracy.

If you can furnish proof of piracy by Simviation  and be prepared to defend your accusations then I'm sure both the users and webmaster would be happy to discuss them.

In your posting you site Garry Smith as being vociferous against freeware piracy, in this respect you are correct. However in including Simviation in your  list then you are accusing Garry of being two faced. Garry actively advertises and uploads his repaints on Simviation .... and I see from his own forums that Simviation is NOT included in his list of pirate sites ( I see you have directly lifted this list  from his forum.)

http://www.gjsmith.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3

As you can see from this link

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... J%2E_Smith

Garry is an member of the Simviation forums and I'm sure if you contact Garry he will be more than pleased to confirm his membership of said forums and the fact that he advertises and uploads onto the site.

If your accusations are based on the fact that Simviation offers Premium membership then I'm afraid that this is completely unfounded also. The Premium Membership offers those that CHOOSE to purchase it faster download speeds and that is all. The rest of the site is unaffected and those who choose not to purchase the membership only see a diffence in the sites graphics and download speeds. At no point is anyone asked to pay for freeware products the Membership fee is used for the day to day running costs of keeping such a popular site running.

Once again the offer to furnish proof of yor accusations is open ....... please feel free to come and join us over at Simviation a warm welcome will be given wether we agree with your opinions or not.

cheers
tatty bye

eno/andy

[|| Andy ||]

Yup, i sent one like that, but with a link to this page aswell....
so he could see our many points against him and his blatent cry for publicity...  >:(

[TacitBlue]

Somehow, I doubt that it will do any good. I would be interested to see his reply though.

[Felix/FFDS]

Guys - it's nice to think that maybe he has a burr  bothering him, but, assume that he's made a point and someone uploaded files to Simviation without his consent.

This could easily have been done by an overenthusiastic fan of his work.

On the other hand, if someone were to describe the FFDS site in the same manner - as an abuser site, I'd probably go ballistic myself.

IF you are posting replies at Rana's site, PLEASE be courteous and stick to FACTS that YOU know.

His problem with Simviation appears to be  a couple of his files uploaded inappropriately, not with the overall site.  However, I agree that having Simviation  lumped with "those"  other sites can only hurt the jealously guarded reputation.

FLAMING WILL ONLY TARNISH SimV's reputation, so be courteous in your replies.

[Saitek]

Well rudeness doesn't get anywhere. (I say this to anyone) If you can't converse nicely don't do it at all.
The goal we want is the right and proper thing to be done and straining relations in any way doesn't help.

I would refuse to answer people that speak to me in any bad way, regardless of what I have done.

[Theis]

i cant see how SimV sould be guilty in piracy, IF we have payware stuff, its some people (maybe rana himself to make us look bad) have uploaded, NOT us

Cheers Theis

[_526th_Fireman]

Did he by any chance mention the files he says were uploaded without his consent?

I would be interested to know which files we are talking about.

Many times, a guy uploads a file he has worked on; panel, acft., effects, repaints....etc., and maybe he used a bit of someone else's work AND actually tried to get permission, but no response. Then too, some files contain no or very vague copyright guidelines. So this person in all honesty thinks he/she is ok. But then, there are those that use a little, as Hollywood says, "Artistic Liscense".

If all he finds are two obscure files of HIS, he's lucky. He should scoot over to you know where and see how many of his files are there. If there are none there, then they probably aren't worth having and lend credence to my guess of an honest mistake.

Simviation has been one of the best run, honest and image conscious sites I have seen amongst all sites. There are many good FS sites and perhaps I am biased. But believe me, if I suspected one iota that Simviation was even a tad on the shady side...............well, I wouldn't be frequenting here anymore.

And guess what??.......................I'm still here!

I agree that the best policy is to ignore him. Let the site speak for itself. Those that really want the truth will do a little research and see. Those that just listen to ONE MAN'S opinion, well, you won't convince them otherwise...............so why bother.

Just my two pennies worth.

[4_Series_Scania]

BLOODY CHEEK !

I've fired off this to him......

Greetings earthling, well, your in Leeds, I'm in Stoke, I think I'm safe in saying that!
A quick note about your comments about www.simviation.com here http://softwares.ranainside.com/forum/v ... .php?t=904
Your wrong mate!
Let me make this quite clear, I've been an avid user of Simviation for longer than I care to remember, SimV as we (site members/ forum users) call it is absolutely not involved in any of the activities you refer to.
A case of tarring people with a brush thats ment for others I think!
Currently, your signature is quite apt, what a lump of cheese you are indeed!
get your facts straight before posting such blatant crap - Please!
Simviation is for the Good of the FS community, as I'd hope you are, sullying Simv's reputation will do little for the fight against sites that do abuse authors.
I trust you'll soon discover the knack of researching your comments before posting, currently, you have a Knack of making yourself look very bad in the eyes of myself any many many other FS enthusiasts.
I regard Pete @ Simviation (The Webmaster) as a friend, and a man of honour, somebody who's given up a hell of alot to keep Simviation where it is today.
I trust you'll be contacting him shortly.
After correcting your forum
I'll  "Have fun flying..." once you clean up your act!

Regards,

"4_Series_Scania" - Ex Moderator & long time inmate of the Simviation Forums.

RSVP.

PS, I'm, a long distance truck driver, I'm often in Leeds, if you fancy continuing this discussion over a Beer one night when I'm in your area, I'd be happy to buy the second round, currently, the first would be over your head mate.

Sorry if its abit agressive in its manner Pete, you should have seen the first, second 3rd, 4th & 5th draft's !  ;D

[Craig.]

All of this isnt helping and now Simv has been singled out. Its clear this guy is an arrogent piece of work and doesnt understand these files are uploaded to simv by outsiders rather than Pete going out to steal them.

[Hagar]

There seem to have been enough misunderstandings about this already. Just to get the facts straight; from what I can see most of Mr Hossain's files are freeware with an option to make a donation. See his statement to this effect here. http://www.ranainside.com/ppl_donation.html

It seems obvious that the developer would like people to visit his site rather than download the files elsewhere. It's difficult to know how this could be done without anyone knowing where to download them. This is where the major Freeware sites like Simviation come into their own by bringing their work to the attention of many 1,000s of regular visitors.

From what I can make out one of the files in question is Flight Sim Manager. http://www.ranainside.com/software_flightsim_manager.html which is also posted at SimV. http://www.simviation.com/fs2004utilities4.htm This is not the latest version & I noticed is that no credit is given to the developer on the SimV download page. This might be one reason that the author is upset but I assume that anyone downloading it would check the developer's site for upgrades & later versions as I always do with my FS utilities. I've found many interesting sites in this way & it's a great way of publicising your work. As FSM has their Gold Developer's Award I assume the files are also posted at Flightsim.com which operates a similar optional membership scheme to Simviation so I don't understand why that is not on the list. It seems likely that this file was uploaded here by a 3rd party but I know from experience that Pete will remove any file from the site if requested by the author.

I don't think bombarding people with E-mails, however polite they might be, is the right way to go about this.

[commoner]

..mmm....what a berk!...anyway, I have emailed my "two-penn'orth so he will be in no doubt of my opinion....commoner.

..I'm not holding my breath for a reply

...his profile says he's from Leeds in my beloved Yorkshire............well I never heard of a REAL Yorkshire man with that name.............