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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:50 pm

In nazi germany no one ever faced death by refusing to kill the jews

Actually Craig a number of German officers and soldiers were executed for refusing to follow such an order. Their courage shines out as an example to many others who lacked their morals.
Believe me we in Britain are no better. I mean we invented the concentration camp (Boer War), and little jollies like barbed wire, machine guns etc.
Having watched the destruction of Yugoslavia, and having friends from all sides in that little collection of wars I have to say that many people are pushed unknowingly into these situations. I feel this man should stand trial, and if he is truely innocent, a victim of circumstance then yes he should be freed. However if he is guilty of crimes he should be punished. That is the law of any civilised country.

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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:09 pm

Actually Craig a number of German officers and soldiers were executed for refusing to follow such an order. Their courage shines out as an example to many others who lacked their morals.
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Thats not what my A level history text book says.

And my name, is not Craig. >:( ;D ;)
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:15 pm

Ooops sorry Woodie. Small brain malfunction there, been PM'ing Craig all evening and the grey matter flipped.
'Fraid to say your history book may not be all that accurate (hardly a first with school books huh?).

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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Wing Nut » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:16 pm

In a small aside, didn't Rommell refuse orders to shoot Jewish prisoners?
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:23 pm

He also aided and abetted in helping several SAS and LRDG prisoners escape from hospital before the Gestapo could get them, in direct contravention of Hitlers Commando Order.
A damn fine gentleman, as well as a superbly talented general (and that from someone on 'the other side' :o)

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Biased Books: Surprise!

Postby Scorpiоn » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:23 pm

Thats not what my A level history text book says.

We wouldn't want to give the bad guy any credit, now would we?
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Wing Nut » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:28 pm

What else can you say about a guy who is on the losing side of the greatest war in history but is still remembered as one of the greatest generals in history?  The only other person I can think of who did that is Robert E. Lee in our Civil War...
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:29 pm

Oh I don't know Scorpion, I've been re-reading Mr Reids Colditz (he was the escape officer there for a couple of years!), and I love the fact that he accepts being caught as part of the game, and the fact that the prison guards were delighted when the Gestapo came to show them how to do an inspection and lost all their keys along with a number of articles of clothing etc. And the minute they left all the keys (and some of the clothing) was returned by the prisoners ;D ;D ;D

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Hypocrisy

Postby Scorpiоn » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:36 pm

My stance is aimed more towards the "official" kind of reporting, not first hand accounts.  I would like to say a lot of veterans, if not most, are less biased than than any report or "informative" textbook.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Smoke2much » Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:34 pm

I feel I need to re-state my previous post.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:03 pm

The SS were all volunteers.

nope,not all. no one was forced to go there,but they didn't volunteer either.
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