The Irish are being Metrified even more!

[Omag 2.0]

I can follow the idea in your first paragraph Doug! To me it seems it's eather all the way: The EU - one state - one goverment or no EU at all!

But I get annoyed by people who keep on nagging about the more powerful nations around and the fact that Europe can't seem to get its act together.

As I tell people who gossip and nag at work: Don't nag, ACT! Same goes for the European Union. We'll never get to a workable entity unless we shake the nationalism out of our heads.

And I also agree with Craigl's point of view. But what he says, no offence, is that we should take care of our own country instead of raising the whole continent to a higer level. Sure, the newer eastern countries don(t have the same standard as we do, but they'll never reach our standard on there own in a reasonable period of time.

Let me give you a little example, if I may, don't wanna lecture you guys...    ;)

When I started working with my employer I didn't receive any form of decend education on the job. I was followed by people who didn't understand what they were talking about. 4 years later and after lots of struggle I am beginning to get the feeling I am mastering my profession. To my collegues it was easier that I found out my own way, but I can not begin to explain the loss we've made during this process. Towards the compagny, our clients, our suppliers, ... If they had prepared me well, I think I would have been standing where I am now within 1 year. Nowadays I am the one explaining my collegues how to do things.

I think that should be the main goal of a united Europe! To grow as an entity and not just as one country.

But I guess I am drifting way of topic here...

 

[Hagar]

I can follow the idea in your first paragraph Doug! To me it seems it's eather all the way: The EU - one state - one goverment or no EU at all!

That's not the way I see it or how it was presented (misrepresented) to the British people back in the 1970s. We were told we were joining the EEC, the Common Market as it was then called. The idea was to encourage trade between member states by lowering barriers & removing tariffs. This is possible without a common currency or central government but much of it has still not happened over 30 years later. What they were after all along was a federal Europe. Another world power with its own central government, currency (a prime requirement), armed services & everything else that goes to make up a superstate.* While this might not be such a bad idea since the Soviet Union collapsed it's not what I voted for in 1975.

[quote]Let me give you a little example, if I may, don't wanna lecture you guys...

[767-300er]

[quote]But both Great Britain and Ireland are in the European Union. And since this is practically a closed and united community,all should have the same currency and measuring systems. I know that democracy is raping the minority, but, well, it works, eh?
I agree 'though that the introduction should've been done step-by-step and not overnight.

Bj

[ATI_7500]

767-300er, with 400kgs im my trunk

I take half of it!  :o

[Hagar]

[quote]The potheads are able to adapt to the metric system better than the average American. Sad

[Craig.]

affect the users short-term memory and ability to concentrate. It can also leave the user feeling paranoid, tired and lacking energy.  

short of paranoid i have all the above, and i dont touch the stuff (health freak remember?) so wheres the medical work going on that one? if a person suffers the same side effects, never having touched the stuff.

[Hagar]

short of paranoid i have all the above, and i dont touch the stuff (health freak remember?) so wheres the medical work going on that one? if a person suffers the same side effects, never having touched the stuff.

I'm not a doctor or a scientist. These are the symptoms for a normal heathy person. Going by what they were saying during a recent radio discussion, taking cannabis would most likely make someone in your situation a lot worse. This could lead to permanent mental health problems.

[z1010]

In the Netherlands, cancerpatients can get cannabis on a docters-recipe against pain. With a recipe you can get it in a drugstore.

There is a lot of nonsense written about cannabis, even bij scientists - especially U.S.-scientist.

The fear for cannabis is a political fear. Same about opium: if you use it with care you there is no problem (although opium is addictive).

The most dangerous drug: alcohol. Alcohol gives damage to the body, cannabis don't ....
And yes, smoking is dangerous (included smoking cannabis, great!).
There are no long lasting side-effects of cannabis known ... Yes, there are cannabis-addicted people - i've seen coffee-addicted people too ...

[Hagar]

As I said earlier, it's no business of mine & I have no right to preach. I have no knowledge of the subject myself & can only go by what the experts tell me. The jury still seems to be out on that one as there are varying opinions. However, it seems strange to me that while pot is still illegal in most places, the laws regarding it have been recently relaxed in my country, from a Class B to Class C drug whatever that means. Meanwhile they're doing their very best to ban cigarette smoking all over the world. It might be an objectionable habit but the last time I looked this is a perfectly legal pastime & nobody has suggested making it an offence to sell or purchase tobacco. It's a strange old world we live in.

Sorry if this has veered off-topic but you brought the subject up, not me. Not this time anyway.

[ATI_7500]

A positive aspect of Cannabis: It stops the growth of brain tumors.
A negative aspect: It doesn't ease every pain, except headaches.

Comment on your posts above: It all depends on the 'how much & how often'. I for myself am just a spare time pothead.

[Woodlouse2002]

The way I see inhailing smoke, what ever it comes from, can't be good for you. It seems though that the scientists miss out the one important and undeniable side affect of cannabis. It makes you boring. Try talking to a stoned person. They are the most boring people on the planet!

[767-300er]

None of my business but this latest report might interest you. http://www.homehealth-uk.com/index.html?f=body|fr=http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/cannabis.htm|r
As a confirmed tobacco smoker myself I know you won't take any notice of anything I say. If anything, what you're doing to yourselves looks far worse than my habit.

PS. cannabis can provoke negative mood changes Sound familiar?

I think people make too much of a deal out of this.  I don't think it is any worse than alchohol, infact I think alchohol has more of a negitive impact on the body. Never heard of anyone overdoseing on weed, but people die every day from alchohol poisoning. Dosen't damage the liver either. I think the gov. should legalise it and just tax the hell out of it, would be alot better and a better deal to the tax payer than throwing these people in jail.

[ATI_7500]

It makes you boring. Try talking to a stoned person. They are the most boring people on the planet!

But they themselves are feeling great!

I think the gov. should legalise it and just tax the hell out of it, would be alot better and a better deal to the tax payer than throwing these people in jail.

Hm, nice idea.

[Hagar]

Hm, nice idea.

Good idea. Then they can start banning it & turning public opinion against the people that do it just as they're doing with smokers.

Me. I can't see the difference between smoking tobacco or pot. Both are offensive & potentially harmful to anyone in the vicinity. The main difference being that smoking a cigarette before getting in my car never affected my driving to my knowledge. If you mix pot with tobacco to smoke it you're getting the worst effects of both.

PS. I wonder if any so-called expert has thought about doing research into the effects of passively inhaling pot smoke. If so, I haven't seen it mentioned & suspect this could be far more harmful than tobacco smoke ever was. Do I sound bitter? You bet I'm bitter. Just another example of muddled thinking by the powers-that-be.