17 year old dies in crash near Syracuse, NY

[Jaffa]

Stop dying!

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=22368&SecID=83

[Scottler]

Personally, I feel that the drinking is what probably caused this accident.  Yes, the car was fast and everything-but you are all assuming the driver had no experience in it.  Since it belonged to his dad, maybe he had driven it quite often.  It sounds like some people feel he shouldn't be driving a fast car just because he is young.  I know a lot of people that age who have extensive experience with fast cars (who are from familes who don't have ferrari type cars), maybe he was one of them.

There are so many things I want to say in response to this, but I'll try to be brief.

1.  I am definitely saying he was too young to be driving a Ferarri.  There is no way on God's green earth that this idiot was experienced enough to be driving it.  Don't lump a Ferarri in with your typical "faster than average" vehicle.  To do so is like saying a Cessna pilot with 100 hours could land the space shuttle.  

2.  What ultimately killed this kid was an absolute lack of parenting.  For some reason, he thought it was okay to break the law by exceeding the speed limit, break the law to drink underage, break the law to drive after drinking underage, and break the law by putting someone on your lap to steer.  

No one will convince me to feel sorry for this moron.  Through their inability to raise a child who obeys the laws of the land, his parents killed him, plain and simple.

[Craig.]

just to clear up one thing the person was sitting on the passengers lap.
Richie if this person had experience with this car or other forms of racing car i am almost certain they would have thrown it in as part of the report. At 17 you just dont have experiance with a ferrari road car, even from the pics of the wreckage it looked like a newer ferrari like i suggested most likely the 360. There should be a required driving course like ozzy mentioned about the XJ220 for all supercars, no matter the age of experiance of a driver. Plus had he been experianced he certainly wouldnt have been drunk driving or stupidly carrying 2 passengers in a 1 passenger car. You see these packages that give you a chance to drive these supercars for a few hours on a circuit with a professional, the main requirements are always, held a driving license for 2 maybe 3 years minimum and a minimum age of 21, and thats for a professional lesson. I somehow doubt that kid even had his license for 3 years.

[Scottler]

Here in New York you can't get your license until you're 16, which means at MOST he had been driving for a year.

[Craig.]

his parents killed him, plain and simple

few things here.
1: the driver wasnt killed, the passenger with the guy on his lap was.
2: while the parents can take some blame, as far as i am concerned, this kid should have known better, once again we come back to, taking responsibility for your own actions. Everyone who gets their license has to know even the most basic of laws and this kid broke two very basic laws.

[Scottler]

Right, but is it not fair to say that a lack of parenting is responsible for the death of the idiot who thought it was perfectly fine to climb in and sit on someone's lap when the driver was drinking?

This kid can't be victimized.  There's no rational explanation for any of it.

[Craig.]

i am not trying to say he should be given any sympathy. Something tells me the other two kids were prob drunk aswell. They are all to blame in some way or another. Yes the parents should have made sure he was responsible enough to even consider this type of car which clearly he wasnt. But i have always been taught that once in the car it is the driver who is 99% responsible for everything that goes on inside the vehicle. whether its deciding if your fit enough to drive(which he wasnt) to making sure all passengers are safe and their seatbelts are all on.

[Jakemaster]

This morning in drivers ed, we saw a quick video showing a fatal accident involving drunk drivers. It was nasty.  They showed a dead woman on the street surrounded by blood.  They then said that her hair was blonde, but in the pictures it was dark red.  It was NASTY!!!

[Scottler]

ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.

When I was in school they had a multi-school assembly at the civic center where we saw emergency room photos of DUI patients, listened to parents of children who had been killed, listened to ER doctors, nurses, and medflight crews who had worked on them.

We then listened to plastic surgeons who showed slides of patients they had the misfortune of trying to put back together.  

It was very enlightening.

[gaztop]

A simple solution:

1/ The training starts in a classroom
2/ A visit to a morgue
3/ A meeting with the familes of people killed by negligent drivers.
4/A driving course spread over a year
5/ Different licences for different size engines/cars
6/ Teach people how to drive, not just pass thier test.
Can anyone think of something to add to the list?

[Hagar]

I think we're all missing the point here. I could be wrong but the way I see it the kid got drunk & pinched Daddy's car for a joyride - a bit of a lark. Not everyone of his age has access to a Ferrari but it could be any car. He doesn't need to be old enough to drive it or have a licence. This seems to be more common these days. Anyone who's ever been drunk knows that you can do anything so much better after a few drinks. (I'm being sarcastic in case anyone misunderstands me.) I'm no goody-goody & don't care to think about all the stupid things I've done in my younger days while pissed out of my tiny mind. I was lucky enough to get away with it & without harming anyone.

The only answer is to stop glorifying alcohol & drugs & crack down hard on anyone daft enough to drive while under the influence. Too many times I see drunk-drivers let off with a slap on the wrist after killing or badly injuring innocent bystanders. Joyriding is so common around here these days that the police don't even bother coming out.

[Jaffa]

I beleive he is being charged with DWI and reckless driving...

[bozotheclown338]

My dad just bought an old 1972 Nova that he is almost completely rebuilding it- engine, paint, etc. When hes done it will be for drag racing. He already bought the motor and when he was starting it in the garage, it was VERY loud.