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Postby Flying Trucker » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:07 am

Goodly morning all... :dance:

Interesting Video that I think was done in 2013, much information was left out and the Video was made to be expanded on...leave it to the government... :o :oops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlI2qAzQh9U

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noorduyn_Norseman

Okay the reason I posted this here and not in the Forum Video Section was to hopefully create some General Discussion... ;)

One needs to watch the entire Video, it is short and interesting to say the least.

Facts that were left out:
-Canada was mapped several times by:
...Royal Flying Corps/Royal Air Force
...Canadian Air Force...(between the World Wars)
---Royal Canadian Air Force

-Bush Pilots and Commercial Aviators were mostly Discharged Royal Canadian Air Force Pilots who either started their own Flying Operations or flew for some one else after the end of World War One and World War Two.
-Many flew in the State of Alaska also.

-The narrator mentions there are no Bush Planes being produced now however what he failed to mention was the DeHavilland of Canada DHC-2 "Beaver" and the DeHavilland of Canada DHC-3 "Otter" have had their airframes and power plants constantly upgraded.

-There is talk of putting both these aircraft back into production as there is nothing that can replace them anywhere in the world.

-Water covers most of our planet and what the narrator failed to mention is that there are several new aircraft concepts being developed that will be able to use both the water and the land to operate off of.

-Transport Canada is involved in the International Seaplane Association, something I just read.

-The narrator mentioned that Red Lake (Canada) was the busiest airport in the world, not bad for a seaplane/floatplane base... :clap:

-According to the narrator the day of the Bush Pilot is over...hmmm...I think not... :o

-Canada has more lakes, bays and rivers than all the other countries in the world combined...a fact.
(no all Canucks do not live on house boats... :lol: )

-Much of the Canadian North is serviced by aeroplane as there are no roads into many areas and the Boats/Barges do not always make it into many communities prior to the freeze up.
Sure many of these communities have paved landing strips but many do not.

-I do not believe the day of the Bush Pilot acting as the middle man between purchasers and sellers is over either.

-Not sure what you folks think but I had a good chuckle when the one owner of the Bush Flying Company referred to his pilots as Truck and Bus Drivers... :lol:
Perhaps he does have a point.

-Bush Flying is still very prominent in Canada, the only way into some fishing and hunting camps is by the bush plane.

-Has the romance of Bush Flying gone :?:
Perhaps that is the question to be answered.

-Myself, I do not think so. We can still jump into a Bugsmasher (Piper, Cessna etc.) and fly for miles and not see a vehicle or building and that is still in Southern Ontario. There are not as many remote fishing and hunting camps in Southern Ontario with access by aeroplane as there used to be but one can still fly for miles and perhaps several hours in a Bugsmasher and not see what we consider as civilization.

-The romance of flying will always be with the professional aviator as long as their career remains a profession and does not become a job... :think:

-The General Aviation aviator will always find romance with flying, why else would they pay the cost of a hours flight if they did not :?:
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Re: Interesting

Postby ViperPilot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:14 am

Actually, the Video in question wasn't done in 2013... it was made over twenty years earlier, in 1980.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Pilo ... adian_Myth

With regards to whether or not the days of the Bush Pilot are over; personally, I think not.

Just look at Canada and Alaska; the rural and First Nations communities still rely on Bush pilots for their supplies, for emergencies, and for Human interaction. Some of the smaller operations might have been absorbed by the bigger companies like First Air, CP Canada, or RAVN Alaska (formerly ERA Alaska), but the small guys are still out there to pick up the slack.

Bush operations aren't just limited to the Northern locales, either... just look at Africa, the Pacific Islands like Papua New Guinea or Borneo, or the Australian Outback. Bush pilots are still cranking away, delivering their wares to grateful, awaiting souls. And, don't forget about the folks in South America... in places like Colombia, where the Gooney Bird still lives and thrives, and female pilots are as common as their male counterparts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-F-cBF5ZbQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW265nZmMw (a four part video, but very interesting)

As long as there are outdoorsmen, hunters, fishermen and explorers... people living the rural, backcountry life, Bush Pilots will be too... hauling pop, chips and all the necessities of daily life.

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Re: Interesting

Postby Flying Trucker » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:40 am

Thanks for the information Link on the Video ViperPilot...much appreciated...I took the date from the bottom of the page... :lol:

Other Links were quite interesting also...thanks for posting them... ;)

Before I forget, thanks for the reply...much appreciated... :dance: :clap:

P.S. Wonder if Mail Order Brides are still on the List of Necessities of Daily Life :?: :o

Here are a couple of other Links one might find interesting...lot of pictures of the Norseman also...

http://www.norsemancapital.com/norseman/

Red Lake...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Lake,_Ontario
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Re: Interesting

Postby ViperPilot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:13 am

COL FT,

Personally, I don't know if Viking Air should re-introduce a new Beaver... I cannot for the life of me picture an Amik with a G1000 glass cockpit, and I just can't wrap my head around the Turbo Beaver's looks!

It just don't look like a Beaver should look!

One of the major Maintenance operations for supporting the R-985 Wasp Junior is closing its doors, and that may have a major impact with maintaining the Wasp Junior in the future. I hope not; just 15 more years, and the Wasp Jr. will make its 100th Birthday still in service!

Hats off to Fred Bueller, Dick Hiscocks, and Jaki Jakimuk for designing it, and Phil Garratt for having the foresight in 1947 to stake DHC's reputation and capital to finance the construction of the Beaver. Thanks to Jim Young at P & W Canada, for the suggestion to use the Wasp Junior instead of the anemic Gipsy Queen engine, which ended up blowing up on the Test Stand!

If you look on eBay, Craigslist or at a used bookstore, try and find a copy of The Bush Pilots, which was part of the Time Life book series called The Epic of Flight. It's one of the best books out there which documents the history of Bush Operations. It was written in the mid 70's but still provides a wealth of historical information about the early Bush pioneers; guys like Grant McConachie, Wop May, Punch Dickins, Ray "Battling" Parer, Bob Reeve and Don Shelton.
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Re: Interesting

Postby Flying Trucker » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:59 am

Thanks for the reply ViperPilot...much appreciated... ;)

To me the Turbo-Beaver and Turbo Otter are sexy machines although I prefer to fly the radial engine Otter myself.

My library is full of aviation books so if they came out in the 70s I am sure we have copies somewhere... :lol:

Calling an aircraft "sexy"...Oh my goodness... romanticness :?:
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Re: Interesting

Postby ViperPilot » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:36 pm

FT,

I'm not that good yet with Turbines; I get confused about Power settings, and where I should be set for a given phase of flight. Between the two, I personally like flying Eugene Heyart's 'PZL' Otter, with the 1000HP Radial and the 4 blade prop. I think it's a better flyer than Steven Grant's version with the R-1340.

However, in my "Virtual Hangar Facility" (aka Boneyard) I have a full complement of Turbo Beavers and Otters ready to fly... as soon as their Owner learns how to fly Turbines!

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Re: Interesting

Postby jcj78 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:54 pm

TRACE STC'd their V8 for Beavers. I don't know what it does to the aerodynamics of a DHC-2, but Air Tractors usually pick up ten or fifteen knots true just cause of the pointy nose. http://www.traceengines.com/aircraft-kits
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Re: Interesting

Postby logjam » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:41 pm

Take a look at this site for information about turbine engines. Well worth the read, as there's a world of difference. http://www.pilotoutlook.com/airplane_flying/turboprop_engines_types
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Re: Interesting

Postby ViperPilot » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:55 pm

logjam wrote:Take a look at this site for information about turbine engines. Well worth the read, as there's a world of difference. http://www.pilotoutlook.com/airplane_flying/turboprop_engines_types


OMG!

logjam... Thanks so much for the link; I've been trying to scour the FS Forums and Google for I don't know HOW long, to find exactly what this article provides!

Looks like an awesome site... time to peruse some more!

Thanks again!

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Re: Interesting

Postby Flying Trucker » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:06 am

Thanks for the Links "jcj78 and logjam" and for the replies also.

One can learn something new here every day... :dance: :whistle:
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