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FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:35 pm
by Aiden327
I have finally taken the leap into real time and real world weather flights. I have had some problems with the AI giving me near suicide approach clearance and runways. For example, I am flying from KJFK to KDCA in a CRJ-700. The weather at KDCA is 9 mile visibility and a 8 knot wind at 210. However there is also a severe thunderstorm warning and plenty of lightning and a ceiling below 6000.

Here is the problem... ATC makes me land runway 22 visual, wich is fine but they forgot that its almost impossible to approach the runway with out violating P-56 airspace unless you do a s curve around the airspace onto the runway. I would like to fly a LDA 19 or ILS 1 in these conditions because winds at 8knots is almost nothing to worry about but I must wait until I get Radar Contact as the default atc loves to use the phrase circle and land 22 no matter what approach I pick ::). Here is the Rossyln LDA 19 approach plate wich gives a good view of the P-56 and runway 22 as-well as the runway lengths- http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0907/00443ROSSLYNLDA19.PDF

The second problem is runway 22 is very short and I take up almost all of the runway with reverse thrusters, spoilers and braking. The worst thing that happened was in the same conditions I got a runway 15 visual clearance which I have flown before but the ATIS did not prepare me for a soaking wet runway because it was not raining. So very short runway + wet condition and a 9 mile visibility and not enough fuel for a go-around(second go around) I am pretty sure the ATC killed me their. We took a swim in the river on the other side of the runway when the plane hydroplaned right off the runway. The plane also failed to rotate fast enough to attempt and emergency touch and go.

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:33 pm
by Brett_Henderson
I'm not gonna research CRJ700 specs..

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:36 am
by Aiden327
[quote]I'm not gonna research CRJ700 specs..

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:14 am
by Brett_Henderson
This might be redundant.. it sounds like you have a good understanding .. But I'll elaborate.

The LDA for runway 19 looks like a handful of an approach. I'll defer to your knowledge, as you've researched this.. but my gut instinct is that loaded CRJs would avoid the 5000' runways.. 01/19 would be what they use...

I just researched that airport.. according to Airnav, runway 04/22 is not used at all, "closed indefinately".


ANYway..

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:17 pm
by Aiden327
I just researched that airport.. according to Airnav, runway 04/22 is not used at all, "closed indefinitely".


That explains my problems lol... I think I need to find a better AFCAD then to close the runway

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:10 am
by Brett_Henderson
Yeah.. you've got a pretty good handle on this stuff

Re: FSX and Runways......

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:30 am
by Aiden327
"Would you turn someone loose in a jet.. flying complex approaches.. who'd never gotten his instrument ticked ? "


I probably wouldn't want to be in that situation until I have any flight training lol. My goal is to be as realistic as possible and also use realistic use of autopilot and procedures based on airline SOP's and actual manuals and training material I can find.

[quote]It's just that if someone DOES show an interest in realism, I'm all about encouraging it. There are so many aspects to MSFS that translate well to real flying.. and one of them holds especially true. If you can takeoff in a C172.. poor visibility.. find your way over a couple hundred NM by instrument alone (NO GPS OR AUTOPILOT).. managing winds aloft... and then execute a published approach (BY THE BOOK)(especially NDB approaches)... manage those winds as you descend... fly a procedure turn.. hold