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Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:44 am
by Cessna156
I am contemplating flight instruction from a few nearby flight schools. Is there a website that provides information on certifications that a pilot has?

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:16 am
by Mobius
Are you wondering if there is a website that lists what pilot has what ratings?  If so, then I don't know, but I doubt it.  If you're wondering about a certain instructor, you could just ask what ratings they have.  Good luck with your training. ;)

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:26 am
by garymbuska
I suggest you ask the instructer for his/her logbook. This should have a entry in it as to when they completed the test for instructer. If they do not want to show you than they are more than likely not FAA certified. With the name of the pilot I would imagine the FAA could verify there status. I am not aware of a website that lists all pilots as this might be senestive information.

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:31 am
by Brett_Henderson
The FAA does keep a public registry that can be accessed by anyone, but a pilot can request to not be on it.

If the instructor you're questioning is already "working" at an FBO or flight school; it's safe to assume he's more than legit. The company that insures the school/FBO will see to that... as will the owner(s) of the planes leased to them.

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:04 pm
by Cessna156
Thanks for the quick responses to all.

Certainly a direct questions is a good idea, but sometimes schools list their instructors without giving background. Was just hoping to do review what I could ahead of time.

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Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:27 pm
by Mobius
That's one of the things about pilots: if they're still flying or not dead, than they probably not the worst pilot around. ;D ;)

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:03 am
by Cessna156
About a year ago I was able to find a site that gave me the certifications of a certain instructor that worked out of a local school. I had to know his registration? number to get the information. It was probably an FAA site. This year, however, I cannot locate any site that even asks for a registration number.

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Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:23 pm
by Drake_TigerClaw
Actually that public record, I dont think you can not be on it if I understand what the form said. But you can request to have your adress unlisted.

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:11 am
by beaky
What exactly are you looking for? Proof that a given instructor is really a CFI? If so, you can almost certainly rest assured that the school has already checked on that. ;)


But if that's not satisfactory, if you do find a list of pilots and their certifications, you may not find any information that cross-references them to a particular flight school, so I'm not sure how this would help you, unless you get all the instructors' names first.

If you just want to know if said instructor is a good instructor, locate a student at the school you're interested in, and ask the student. Warning: answers may vary from student to student... ;D


For what it's worth, I'd sooner want to see the aircraft's books than the instructor's... ;D

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:26 pm
by Cessna156
That'sinteresting. Why would th e aircraft's books be more important?

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Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:38 pm
by Hagar
That'sinteresting. Why would th e aircraft's books be more important?

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I would think that's fairly obvious. Some aircraft are better maintained than others.

Things have changed a lot since I was learning to fly. In those days instructing was seen as an honourable profession but nowadays it seems to be a stop-gap until something better comes along. At least, I get the impression that's how it is in the US.

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:51 pm
by Brett_Henderson
Unfortunately, that's how it is. About the only way a non-military, budding airline pilot is going to get his bare-minimun 1200 hours without having to borrow $100,000.. is to get them from the right seat, instructing.

Entry-level pilot salary is so low.. It's just not worth making that kind of investment.

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:56 pm
by beaky
That'sinteresting. Why would th e aircraft's books be more important?

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My point, I suppose, is that there are more lousy flight-school planes out there than lousy instructors... at least that's been my personal impression.

It's not a bad idea to at least ask to see the maintenence logs for a plane you're thinking of renting... if they refuse to show them, or make some fishy excuse, go somewhere else.

As for the instructors, even an outfit that skimps on maintenance will check out prospective CFIs pretty thoroughly.
New CFIs are a dime a dozen, and they don't stay long, generally- employers can afford to be picky.

 I wouldn't worry about their qualifications- it's more important to hook up with a teacher who's a good match to your needs and personality. And an impressive resume doesn't mean much until you fly with this person and see what they're really like as a teacher.

To further illustrate my point regarding average quality of CFIs vs. average quality of aircraft maintenance:
I once met a young, hungry CFI who had abruptly quit his first flying job, with a small flight school, after he saw the owner of the school out on the ramp straightening the prop on a trainer-with a hammer-  while it was still attached to the airplane...
;D

Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:46 am
by Cessna156
This is an interesting discussion. The stop- gap theory until something else comes along is in my experience too. I personally know two instructors who have moved on to steady jobs with airlines/private companies in favor of their instructing. One bit of  advice I read somewhere was to ask an instructor what his goals were for the long term - to see whether or not he was planning to be around for a while.

There is probably truth in the poorly maintained aircraft theory too. Problem is, a fledgling pilot wouldn't know what to look for in reading the maintenance log (at least I don't think I would).

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Re: Certified pilot question

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:37 am
by Hagar
[quote]This is an interesting discussion. The stop- gap theory until something else comes along is in my experience too. I personally know two instructors who have moved on to steady jobs with airlines/private companies in favor of their instructing. One bit of