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High speed approach

Posted:
Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:55 am
by Poseidon
Hi, do you know what is the term "high speed approach"? I have heard it on an online flight where the controller gave clearance for "high speed approach".
Re: High speed approach

Posted:
Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:27 pm
by Citationpilot
Stay as fast as you can for as long as you can.
Re: High speed approach

Posted:
Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:47 am
by Skittles
From my understanding, a high speed approach is required when flaps are unavailable. No flaps means more speed to stay aloft. Normally the Cessna 182 lands a 70-75kts with flaps. With out flaps (high speed approach) it's around 85-90kts.
Re: High speed approach

Posted:
Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:47 pm
by OTTOL
Stay as fast as you can for as long as you can.
Just like the man says......
This terminology normally applies to aircraft which can exceed 250kts. What the controller is saying is that the (250kt-below 10,000 feet) restriction, which exists in the US, is omitted. Houston center practices this quite frequently, so you may hear this phrase on any site that broadcasts Houston.
Re: High speed approach

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Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:58 pm
by Nexus
OTTOL, a High speed approach was issued some days ago here aswell (not that usual)
Hope you don't mind me sharing this story.
Re: High speed approach

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Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:52 pm
by OTTOL
Just remember that all of these people flying these big airplanes started out in small airplanes. This pilot was just using the skill that he used way back in the days of flying light aircraft. And after all, an airplane is airplane big or small.
I watched a SouthWest pilot SLIP a 737 at FLL one day, from 2,000 feet nearly down to the runway threshold. I wouldn't recommend it(I'd love to try it!) but that's not to say it can't be done.
Your example is a perfect example of energy management. This pilot used the pattern to bleed off his airspeed and applied increments of flaps at the same time. And if he is a good commercial pilot, I'll bet the passengers didn't know the difference.
Re: High speed approach

Posted:
Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:15 am
by Skittles
Just like the man says......
Maybe it's just an aircraft carrier thing I was referring to. Spent six years on one and to carriers, a high speed approach to us means no flaps.
Re: High speed approach

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Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:45 pm
by OTTOL
I have heard it on an online flight where the controller gave clearance for "high speed approach".
.....just like the OTHER man says...........
Unless you know of a site that broadcasts live CQ's, I think he would be referring to civilian terminology. ::)