Questions about "Takeoff Trim" and "Auto Brake"

[flightmedic]

Hmm, interesting flightmedic. I, too am a 172 pilot (ok, with 11.5 hours I'm a wannabe, but you get the point

Wanna Be?  ???

Don't cut yourself down bud. You are a student pilot with 11.5 hrs. PERIOD.

The only wanna be is the person who thinks less because of it

[beefhole]

Very interesting, I was taught-

Abeam the numbers and below 110 kts on downwind, flaps 10, base leg flaps 20, final flaps 30, final speed is 65 kts. You?

[flightmedic]

Myself as follows,

-abeam threshold - full

[beefhole]

WOW there's about two things we agree on there-

-turn base 45 off the runway,
-2300 RPMs for cruise
-and idle once you've made the runway doesn't really count, a monkey could tell me that  ::)

That's about it, and I'm not even exaggerating! Our 172s dont have manual carb heat, and when we're abeam the numbers it's down to 1500 RPMs, and I've been drilled again and again to "round off"(fly level) NOT flare (I have to stress it, my CFI has yelled it at me so much  :P) when above the runway. I don't begin the flare until one winglength off the surface.

Amazing how different the techniques are, but come to think of it my flight school itself is very different-they have their own, modified curriculum and some very, errm, interesting instructors. Well, just cool to know that it's done differently in places. You know, from what I've seen, generally in aviation there is normally a universal teaching for things like landings, which can then be modified by the student.

[flightmedic]

No Carb heat? What yr is your plane?

Yup, it sure is neat to see how others are taught to do it.  8)

[beefhole]

The planes are pretty new-at least the paint schemes are. They all look like a million bucks and have brand spankin new GPSs in them. I've actually never heard of a 172 with manual carb heat, this just gets more and more intersting  ;D

[flightmedic]

GPS!!!!!!!!!! .................man, until you get licensed that's cheating......

I fly a 1974 Cessna 172.

There is no such thing as a GPS in this plane until you have finished your license. I bought a $600.00 one that clips onto the yoke and has all airport listings, maps, frequencies, ect on it. While I was trainig.....EVERYTHING...was done as dead reckoning. In fact, my FI would give me heck if I even looked at the intruments for the first 20 hours!!!! I looked at airspeed

[beefhole]

Whoa, whoa, whoa there buddy! We make too many assumptions!  :o

You got heck? I get SLAPPED if I even turn my head in the general direction of the GPS screen. I was saying we had GPSs to demonstrate how modern the aircraft are, not to say that I'm using them.  ;)

Pilotage+DR is fun, innit? Just flew my first cc about two weeks ago, learned a LOT, specifically what would make good visual waypoints (somebody's house w/cows=BAD). But my CFI didn't wasn't gonna leave the controls with me while he slept, no sir. NOBODY trusts a fifteen year old that much, even if I am his star student (he doesn't like teaching old people, prefers the young starry-eyed guys)

[flightmedic]

OLD!!!!!????????? ..........THEM FIGHT"N WORDS BRO......

I only got 13 yrs on ya...I'm not that decreped yet...LOL

Once we move to Wisconsin, I am looking forward to continue on new aircraft. I have seen a few and it must be nice. Not that mine isn't bad, I love flying it, but ya know...

Brent

[beefhole]

Ya know, a used hawker is only 350k now...  ;D