Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:45 pm

Great  

Now that we have that cleared up, how do I find the distance of an airport from a VOR? Can this be found at SkyVector?


Yes... and no. Skyvector just shows charts...  if you have the  VFR sectional in front of you  (pick one up.. each one has a huge enough area to let you plan and fly countless flights), you can measure the distance from a VOR to an airport...  OR.. if you go to www.airnav.com   ...  each airport's main page has a list of nearby nav-aids; their bearing and distance to the airport..
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby SubZer0 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:16 pm

Thanks  :)

What's next for this lesson?
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby beaky » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:20 pm

Great  

Now that we have that cleared up, how do I find the distance of an airport from a VOR? Can this be found at SkyVector?


Yes... and no. Skyvector just shows charts...  if you have the  VFR sectional in front of you  (pick one up.. each one has a huge enough area to let you plan and fly countless flights), you can measure the distance from a VOR to an airport...  OR.. if you go to www.airnav.com   ...  each airport's main page has a list of nearby nav-aids; their bearing and distance to the airport..




Another simple way is to look at the MSFS navlog: if the VOR in question is loaded as a waypoint, the log will show you bearing and distance to the next waypoint, which is your destination.
VORs are aligned with local magnetic north, so assuming MSFS has the local variation plugged-in, the mag heading it gives you will be the same as the number of the outbound radial you want. this does not account for wind, of course...

But Airnav is better if you don't want to bother making up and saving a plan using the sim. Most airport listings list more than one VOR or NDB nearby with bearings and distance, and they also sometimes include airport diagrams as well as all relevant runway info.

Best of all, of course, for any scenario, is to get a real chart (pilot shops throw them away, unused, when they expire) and find the correct radial and distances yourself. You don't need to buy a plotter- the scale is on the chart. Mark 10 nm increments on a piece of paper or ruler or use dividers, and you're good to go. This will work even if you have printed a chart from skyvector and it's not full-sized.
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:47 pm

Next is the fine and fading art of NDB use   :)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Mobius » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:46 pm

Next is the fine and fading art of NDB use   :)

Yipee!  *Slides into desk and waits patiently...*  ;D

I could use some NDB/ADF practice, since I've only ever used the ADF to listen to AM radio. ;)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby beaky » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:31 pm

Brings back fond memories of flying direct to-and holding endlessly at- the Paterson NDB near KTEB...


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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby commoner » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:15 am

....mmm......seems a lot of trouble to me........I just set the GPS.(Cost a fortune so I use it).. connect it to the AP and go to SLEEP..........when I wake up my trusty c172 is doing circuits of the selected airport ...........commoner ;)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:50 am

I've always thought of a flight simulator as a tool for simulating flight  ::)

More specifically, simulating the job of being a pilot  ;)

That includes flying the plane.. and navigating ..  If you're just going to sit back and watch a GPS and autopilot do it.. you might as well be a passenger  :)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby beaky » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:33 pm

....mmm......seems a lot of trouble to me........I just set the GPS.(Cost a fortune so I use it).. connect it to the AP and go to SLEEP..........when I wake up my trusty c172 is doing circuits of the selected airport ...........commoner ;)




I hope you have traffic turned off! ;)

Last few years , when I see traffic in RL that ought to see me but appears clueless, I assume they are watching that doggone GPS like it was TV, or yes, perhaps sleeping while the AP and the GPS do their magic...  ::)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby commoner » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:12 am

I've always thought of a flight simulator as a tool for simulating flight  ::)

More specifically, simulating the job of being a pilot  ;)

That includes flying the plane.. and navigating ..  If you're just going to sit back and watch a GPS and autopilot do it.. you might as well be a passenger  :)



LOL...you mean nobody uses the GPS and AP.........what a bloomin' waste...........commoner :o ;D

Seriously though,the Flight Simulator is a thing for all men...whether you like to be flying......designing scenery....creating planes  (for guys who merely like to fly).........or merely just hanging around the SimV forum trying to help simmers with problems..........it's all a part of the great world of FS.........we all enjoy it in our own particular way.........don't you agree Brett?  ;)

PS... this is not RL...in real life I look out the windows......... ;D ;D
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:06 am

[quote]LOL...you mean nobody uses the GPS and AP.........what a bloomin' waste...........commoner
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Slotback » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:31 am

Couldn't you fly DCT to VOR2 until intercepting VOR1 085 outbound, set VOR2 OBS to 155 and fly 085 until VOR2 shows crossover?
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:58 am

Couldn't you fly DCT to VOR2 until intercepting VOR1 085 outbound, set VOR2 OBS to 155 and fly 085 until VOR2 shows crossover?


ABSOLUTELY !  :)   And an excellent way to do it, VFR. I was hoping someone would suggest that.

You wouldn't want to file it that way, IFR though. Unless the intersection was a named waypoint/fix (and it quite probably would be, if Airport 2 had several, published approaches)
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Re: Sim Flight Training: PPL: Part 5 of 7

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:39 pm

** Bump  ( see thread:  "Putting it all together" ) **
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