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Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:14 pm
by Steve M
I don't care anymore where the 'Flight' board is located. I've been reading speculation and opinions for well over a year and even offered up a few of my thoughts now and then. Microsoft wants your money, so the chance of seeing another open source type of simulator from MS in the future, is dead and buried. So if you like Flight, then happy trails to you. If you don't like it, you know the path to take.  8-)    

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:42 pm
by JoBee
[quote]No, actually, it's not.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:32 pm
by Camel_Moe
Ahhh, ok, I see where I lost you. I'm refering to quantity, not quality.
"Comparable content" in the extreme sense would be a quantity of scenery, aircraft, features, etc, equal to what MSFS has out of the box.
However, say for me, I need at minimum, the whole US. Going by the current prices and areas available, a pretty safe guess for me to do that would be at least $100, probably more, and not including new aircraft.
Ok, so I plunk down, say, $130 for the entire US, and some planes. I've allready more than doubled what I had to spend JUST to do what I do with MSFS in the US, still minus frills like AI. Never mind the rest of the world for this example. Just pretend all I needed was the US, and I was willing to pay that much to use it in Flight.
So now the question is, for a "Flight 2", do I have to start over and plunk that money down to get the same stuff again?
Alternately, is there a "Flight 2" where I can still use my previous "flight 1" DLC, but I now have very little reason to invest because I have all I want, and thus MS makes significantly less from me?
Last possible scenario, is "Flight 1" all there ever is untill it becomes obsolete, and that's the end of the Flight series? Fini. No more.
That's where we were going with it.

As for the OT.....My bad, I think I derailed us on page 2, talking about Wiki.... :-[

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:04 pm
by Wing Nut
I think to get Flight quality visuals in FSX most people spend hundreds of dollars on Ultimate Terrain, GEX, FEX, REX, Active Sky, addon airports, you can go to Orbx alone and spend close to a grand.


You forgot SEX!  Sound Environment Extreme...   :D

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:40 pm
by JBaymore
Aren't you glad you asked the question, Pete?   ;D

best,

.............john

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:28 am
by Camel_Moe
[quote]Aren't you glad you asked the question, Pete?

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:20 am
by pete
You're right moe ... it wouldn't make any difference ...

I usually arrange boards in terms of relevance to this site and popularity ....


So .... I can see the 'Flight' board being moved down to the bottom of this section once the novelty has worn off .... & then let's see where it goes in terms of what people are saying  about it ...

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:05 pm
by alrot

So .... I can see the 'Flight' board being moved down to the bottom of this section once the novelty has worn off .....

you wont have to wait too long anyways..

6 month max.......

Alex

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:00 pm
by jetprop
OK,people.

Those who say that you need to spend loads on FSX to make it as good as flight are wrong.

I use a pc of roughly 300/400 euro,FSX for 20 euro and the rest is all freeware,and look at my shots!
I run it at 12-20 FPS with most setting near/at the top wich is all I need.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:11 pm
by Camel_Moe
OK,people.

Those who say that you need to spend loads on FSX to make it as good as flight are wrong.

I use a pc of roughly 300/400 euro,FSX for 20 euro and the rest is all freeware,and look at my shots!
I run it at 12-20 FPS with most setting near/at the top wich is all I need.


Heck, since 1982 I could count all the payware I bought on one hand, up untill last month that is. Now all my saved "just in case there is an FS11" hardware money is being thrown at payware like ORBX and REX, Corenado, Just Flight, etc.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:19 pm
by Flight Ace
Pete,

Great choice and your justification for it is sound.

I just picked up on an article in the Wall Street Journal and thought it should be posted as a separate subject, however I am posting it here since the discussion reference this article was discussed here.

Here is the Headline in the Marketplace Section of the Wall Street Journal I received this morning.

"End of Era for Britannica"

Here are a couple of quotes from the article.

"But the company has a long way to go before it can touch the online presence of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia supported by the nonprofit Wikipedia Foundation. Wikipedia appears as the No 1 result on Google for 56% of searches, according to a 2012 study by Intelligent Positioning Ltd , a U.K. based agency that helps business increase their online traffic."

Mr. Cauz, President of Encyclopedia Britannica, said, and again I quote.

"The company has already taken other pages out of Wikipedias's book. Britannica on line allows readers to make revisions to the encyclopedia articles which are then published by editors after a review process."

My source for the above is the latest press release of the Wall Street Journal. Makes me wonder, will some Universities now black list Britannica?

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:42 pm
by Camel_Moe
It is my understanding that the Britannica review process will remain very much the same, so I would imagine the objections to referencing the Britannica online will be about what they are now.  It's not like people will be able to make changes "wiki style", on the fly.
However, universities generally frown on using the encyclopedia has a primary reference already.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:40 pm
by striker
Heck, since 1982 I could count all the payware I bought on one hand, up untill last month that is. Now all my saved "just in case there is an FS11" hardware money is being thrown at payware like ORBX and REX, Corenado, Just Flight, etc


Hey don't support Carenado man - they are the ones being paid highly making the planes for M$ Flight and making a good killing from M$ by doing this. Also some of the other scenery guys are contracted to M$ for lots of $$$$. Not sure which ones making scenery but I know for sure Carenado is making props for MS Flight.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:00 pm
by andy190
Heck, since 1982 I could count all the payware I bought on one hand, up untill last month that is. Now all my saved "just in case there is an FS11" hardware money is being thrown at payware like ORBX and REX, Corenado, Just Flight, etc


Hey don't support Carenado man - they are the ones being paid highly making the planes for M$ Flight and making a good killing from M$ by doing this. Also some of the other scenery guys are contracted to M$ for lots of $$$$. Not sure which ones making scenery but I know for sure Carenado is making props for MS Flight.


And where did you read that Carenado are making Props for Flight?

It doesn't matter if Carenado are making Props for Flight, if we buy their FSX stuff more than their Flight stuff then they will realise what they've signed up for.

Re: Should this Board be Moved?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:43 pm
by Wing Nut
Heck, since 1982 I could count all the payware I bought on one hand, up untill last month that is. Now all my saved "just in case there is an FS11" hardware money is being thrown at payware like ORBX and REX, Corenado, Just Flight, etc


Hey don't support Carenado man - they are the ones being paid highly making the planes for M$ Flight and making a good killing from M$ by doing this. Also some of the other scenery guys are contracted to M$ for lots of $$$$. Not sure which ones making scenery but I know for sure Carenado is making props for MS Flight.


Man, where do people get this stuff...   ::)