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Re: Say what you want...

Postby alrot » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:40 pm

ALROT WROTE >>> "..!! What ?? that It will become a simulator Once I spend $1.000 or more?
do u really think I'm that stupid"


I couldnt possibly comment on that.


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Re: Say what you want...

Postby matthewdev » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:53 pm

[wow!! I have never met a Microsoft Executive or Personnel before !!!


EXACTLY what I was thinking Alrot.
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Re: Say what you want...

Postby matthewdev » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:56 pm

ALROT WROTE >>> "..!! What ?? that It will become a simulator Once I spend $1.000 or more?
do u really think I'm that stupid"


I couldnt possibly comment on that.


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Re: Say what you want...

Postby Wing Nut » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:16 pm

Well if MS thinks I'm going to drop unlimited dollars into Flight while FSX, X-Plane, Flight Gear, Outerra, and several others I can't think of are available, they are nuts. 

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Re: Say what you want...

Postby alrot » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:01 pm

ALROT WROTE >>> "..!! What ?? that It will become a simulator Once I spend $1.000 or more?
do u really think I'm that stupid"


I couldnt possibly comment on that.


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Re: Say what you want...

Postby Cusance » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:55 pm

ALROT WROTE >>> "..!! What ?? that It will become a simulator Once I spend $1.000 or more?
do u really think I'm that stupid"


I couldnt possibly comment on that.


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Re: Say what you want...

Postby JoBee » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:41 pm

Either way, their PR on Flight was misleading.

How was it misleading?

Can you give a specific example where they lied about Flight?

Did they ever promise AI?

Did they ever promise ATC?

Did they ever promise a whole-world model?

Since the first press release it has been known that Flight was not going to be FSNext.

If people have misinterpreted what they were told, how is that misleading?

FWIW, there are many experienced simmers who are enjoying Flight because they see Flight for what it is, not what it isn't or what they wish it was.

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Re: Say what you want...

Postby andy190 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:55 pm

Joe, I think what Cusance means by misleading is that MS didn't give out enough information for people to gauge whether Flight was a sim or not so people assumed that it was.

I am one of those experienced simmers enjoying Flight for what it is, A Game. 
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Re: Say what you want...

Postby matthewdev » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:37 pm

ALROT WROTE >>> "..!! What ?? that It will become a simulator Once I spend $1.000 or more?
do u really think I'm that stupid"


I couldnt possibly comment on that.


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Re: Say what you want...

Postby Cusance » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:13 am

Either way, their PR on Flight was misleading.

How was it misleading?

Can you give a specific example where they lied about Flight?

Did they ever promise AI?

Did they ever promise ATC?

Did they ever promise a whole-world model?

Since the first press release it has been known that Flight was not going to be FSNext.

If people have misinterpreted what they were told, how is that misleading?

FWIW, there are many experienced simmers who are enjoying Flight because they see Flight for what it is, not what it isn't or what they wish it was.

cheers,
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I do not recall saying that because there was no AI, ATC or the whole world etc that therefore the PR was misleading. You mention all these factors, I didnt. I am referring to a general expectation that had been created about this game by MS.
I followed the various posts very carefully. I also emailed some specific questions and some of those were picked up in their replies. It was stated several times that this game would appeal to novices and experienced flyers. This i consider was misleading. there is simply too much missing for the game to really appeal to the experienced simmer. The very fact that they KNEW the simmer world would not like it (as stated by MS personnel in interviews) and yet their replies to repeated questions about this was that the experienced simmer would not be forgotten warrants, in my view the contention that the PR was misleading. It would have been easy for them to say from the start that experienced simmers would NOT like it.
They chose to side step the issues.You are correct in saying that none of these things were promised. however these are all aspects of flying an experienced simmer would expect.
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Re: Say what you want...

Postby JoBee » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:39 pm

I do not recall saying that because there was no AI, ATC or the whole world etc that therefore the PR was misleading.


I know you didn't say those things, they are simply issues that have been mentioned ad nauseum in other threads.

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...It was stated several times that this game would appeal to novices and experienced flyers.
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Re: Say what you want...

Postby jetprop » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:08 pm

I do not recall saying that because there was no AI, ATC or the whole world etc that therefore the PR was misleading.


I know you didn't say those things, they are simply issues that have been mentioned ad nauseum in other threads.

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...It was stated several times that this game would appeal to novices and experienced flyers.
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Re: Say what you want...

Postby JoBee » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:34 pm

I have to say JoBee,you are defensife about flight.

Nah, not defensive, just playing devil's advocate.

Flight needs no defense, it stands on it's own merits.

You aren't the only experienced simmer,you are however,the only experienced simmer I know of that actualy LIKES flight.

Maybe you should visit some other sights then.

Avsim's Flight forum gets 100's of posts a day and a bunch come from experienced simmers who are having fun with Flight.

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Re: Say what you want...

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Re: Say what you want...

Postby Hagar » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:21 am

[quote]Doesn't really matter what game, it's just fun to watch people argue something as unimportant as video games with an often religious type zeal, were opinion is treated as absolute fact, and anyone caught in the center is lucky not to be flamed in the crossfire.
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