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Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:07 pm
by Wing Nut
...but they finally added stalls!  8-)

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:39 pm
by Camel_Moe
Many of my payware/freeware have proper stall behavior, so they haven't really added it. True, default aircraft had problems with realism when stalling. You could force them they just wouldn't act proper when they did stall.  I was always meh on the default anyway.
Unfortunately it would seem that while fixing stalls they buggered up quite a bit of the overstress and overspeed related stuff. I've yet to break a plane when I should have many times over by now, and pulling out of a dive seems to take little or no effort at times when it should be screw the pooch time.
But then again, I don't really care. I'm not giving any more money to Flight anyway, so I don't really care what they do or don't fix. Not like I don't have a ton of sims that serve me just fine. I'm just keeping Flight on my drive untill I get bored with it.
If other people have fun with it, great, but MS Flight can't give me anything I don't allready have, and I'm certainly not shelling out hundreds of dollars in hopes of ending up with some kind of FS11 like some people want to bet on.

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:03 pm
by Wing Nut
It doesn't matter what payware and freeware aircraft did.  They weren't done by MS and MS never had stalls correct in any FS.  I'm not 100% sure they're correct now, but at least they gave it a shot...

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:07 pm
by andy190
So your congratulating MS for doing something that Freeware did 3 flight sims ago. :-?

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:30 pm
by Wing Nut
Ok, let's keep this lighthearted, shall we?  I'm not saying anything except there's at least one thing in Flight that has not been in past releases of FS. 

So many people here seem to WANT to hate Flight.  You want to know my impression?  If you're a Jet guy, you'll hate it.  If you're a GA guy, you might like it.  I like the fact that you can go through the start up procedures, think it's idiotic that they make you walk to the plane.  I've only played it for about half an hour, so give me time to form a proper feeling for it.

The bad part of Flight so far is not in the graphics or the dynamics, but in what was omitted from Flight Simulator (3rd party), the greedy MS marketing practices and the scripted game play.

Oh, and I like the heads up display as opposed to the hard to read tiny red text in past FS versions...

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:44 pm
by andy190
Firstly I don't want to hate Flight.

I'm not a "jet guy" I'm a GA Flier. But I have flown in Flight of about half a week & I still don't think it's a sim.

Also if it doesn't have the whole world & all the types of planes in the world it can't be a sim can it?

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:53 pm
by Wing Nut
I'm hoping it gets better and gives you some free flight after the boring lessons...

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:54 pm
by alrot
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So many people here seem to WANT to hate Flight.

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:28 pm
by JoBee
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Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:53 am
by Camel_Moe
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So many people here seem to WANT to hate Flight.

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:15 pm
by Cusance
WING Nut Wrote:

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:38 pm
by JBaymore
MS say that they have been dissapointed by some of the negative, unconstructive reactions from the simmers.


When you run a business and drop a long-term successful product line that appealed to a specific market segment, then you should EXPECT that kind of negative reaction. So to do so and then say you are "disapointed" in the inevitable reaction shows nothing but lack of care for the original people that supported the product all along.... or an absolute absymal ubnderstanding of basic Business 101.

In either case...... it does not speak well of Microsoft and the people that made these decisions.

best,

...................john

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:38 pm
by Wing Nut
What John said, x2... >:(

And it wasn't me that said that.  I think it was Alex...  ;)

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:05 pm
by Wing Nut
As long as we're at it, if you want to see what MS might have done, float over to X-Plane and see what Austin has done with that.

Re: Say what you want...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:36 pm
by Camel_Moe
I got X-plane years ago. Not sure which version, but it was early on.
Thought it was ok at the time.
It didn't hold my attention though, and the next one I bought wasn't untill years later. That was Xp9.
Now I am addicted to making my own aircraft.
To bad MS never made it as easy to do. I messed with Gmax, and I can mess with an aircraft.cfg and all that real basic tweak stuff, but I never got it all put together to the level where I could make a 100% orriginal FS aircraft. With XP, I can crank a basic concept out in less than a day.
If only for that, XP will stick arround in my library... ;D