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That depends if you believe that the beta contains any real secrets. The beta is apparently a release from mid-2011, so it will not have all of the features of the final release.

People are assuming that Microsoft have included every single feature in the beta, but they really haven't. Plenty of people are inspecting the software further and finding out that the game has a lot more capacity for features than the ones it is showing off right now. Those people are the 'smart testers' rather than the ones who just record their screen, put it on Youtube and cause rage across the world with their ignorance.

Afterall, the beta is a 'test', not an evaluation. And I have a few ideas about what exactly they are testing. Suffice to say, the secrets are still locked inside, away from the beta testers.

[glow=yellow,2,300]Big Island of Hawaii.
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[i]Funny, I had the same vision you are having

But Hawaii is just the free 'starter pack'.

The things you buy on top of that make it the game. You spend as much or as little extra. FSX and Acceleration was about

machineman9 I can't say no more

So I wonder, how many young kids have credit cards or Paypal accounts? How many parents have 1 to 5 dollars left over to dole out for every new release? This thing should have been on a disc nearly in its entirety and then addons sold afterwards. I have a job so I can afford to be nickel and dimed a bit. Many thousands of people can not expand on the freebie but might be able to swallow a one time fee.

So I wonder, how many young kids have credit cards or Paypal accounts? How many parents have 1 to 5 dollars left over to dole out for every new release? This thing should have been on a disc nearly in its entirety and then addons sold afterwards. I have a job so I can afford to be nickel and dimed a bit. Many thousands of people can not expand on the freebie but might be able to swallow a one time fee.

That exact same thought is constantly on my mind...
..together with Credit Cards, Cheques, etc...
....how many youngsters, (and their Parents), I wonder, have access to the Internet, to be able to download all this; "stuff"?
It costs extra money for Broadband Internet!
I can remember all the various computers I had between 1980 and 1995, (Sinclair Spectrum, etc, to Amiga 1200), when there was no Telephone Line, and no Internet access, and all my zillions of Games and Software had to come from 1/4 Inch Tapes, and Floppy Disks.
If today's little Johnny or Jane wants to play a Game on their Dads Computer, with no expensive Internet access, they need a fully packaged CD/DVD, or they cant play it...Big disappointment!
I have always aimed for complete, fully packaged products if at all possible.

I guess that not everyone has access this magical Internet?

Paul...remembering the time when there was NO Internet, but we still played Computer Games!... ...!

Yes it seems fsx & fs9 will be around for a while.

Though Steve & Paul add-ons are going to be bought from the windows live marketplace so you may not need a credit card to buy add-ons, because Microsoft has its own currency.

You can go into a shop & buy Microsoft points for $50 & you get 3000 points.

Then you go online & activate them with your windows live account.

But it doesn't seem as simple as going into a shop & buying it on a DVD.

Excluding certain demographics is the corperate way to be!!

Thanks Andy for the info, but.. Those points, that you describe are 50$ ? Hypothetically. Its still money, 

So I wonder, how many young kids have credit cards or Paypal accounts? How many parents have 1 to 5 dollars left over to dole out for every new release? This thing should have been on a disc nearly in its entirety and then addons sold afterwards. I have a job so I can afford to be nickel and dimed a bit. Many thousands of people can not expand on the freebie but might be able to swallow a one time fee.

I understood that the cost of addons hasn't been decided yet. From what I've seen the average payware aircraft for FSX costs far more than $5.

So I wonder, how many young kids have credit cards or Paypal accounts? How many parents have 1 to 5 dollars left over to dole out for every new release? This thing should have been on a disc nearly in its entirety and then addons sold afterwards. I have a job so I can afford to be nickel and dimed a bit. Many thousands of people can not expand on the freebie but might be able to swallow a one time fee.

I understood that the cost of addons hasn't been decided yet. From what I've seen the average payware aircraft for FSX costs far more than $5.

One of the unanswered questions, Doug, How much? We will soon see I suppose.

[quote]Excluding certain demographics is the corperate way to be!!

Thanks Andy for the info, but.. Those points, that you describe are 50$ ? Hypothetically. Its still money,

But how many times have we heard in the news that some kid racked up hundreds of pounds on their parents iPad or buying things on Xbox live and what not, isnt this going to be the same, you start with the Big small island of Hawaii for free then you say oh I want the u.k to fly round and I want a mustang and a spit, oh I want a 707 and I wanna fly to Africa so I'll buy that and then at the end of all your simming you get an email invoice for

It may hurt the consumer's pocket to varying degrees, however, you also have to keep one main point in mind:  Microsoft's  purpose is not to produce a game or a sim.  Microsoft is a corporation that produces software, including games and sims, *to make money*.  It's "the bottom line".

So I wonder, how many young kids have credit cards or Paypal accounts? How many parents have 1 to 5 dollars left over to dole out for every new release? This thing should have been on a disc nearly in its entirety and then addons sold afterwards. I have a job so I can afford to be nickel and dimed a bit. Many thousands of people can not expand on the freebie but might be able to swallow a one time fee.

I understood that the cost of addons hasn't been decided yet. From what I've seen the average payware aircraft for FSX costs far more than $5.

Yes but if you think about it, those are 3rd party addons, so not as many people see it/buy it, so they need a higher price to pay for the bread. Microsoft is Micromanaging all of the addons, so all of the available addons as it is will be for purchase only from microsoft, and since its in game everyone should see it unless there blind (then they shouldn't be flying anyway :-?) so there for they will sell more, and according to supply and demand they should lower the price (unless they are a cleaning bag  8-)).
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