What We Wish: Default Aircraft

[RaptorF22]

What A/C should be in MS Flight and what do we want from them?

I for one, would like to see full VCs with all clickable cockpits and cabins.
As for what types of aircraft, they did a pretty good job with FSX and Accel IMO, but maybe a little broader selection of aircraft. I think there should be something for everyone; from hot-air-balloons to F-15s, Cessnas and Mooneys to Boeings and Airbusses, auto-giros to Mil V-12s.

What do you think??

[BrandonF]

No Airbuses!!! 

I think we do need a larger variety of default aircraft. But that line from the FAQ page that says that there will be a integrated content marketplace makes you wonder if you will be able to download/buy new aircraft from within the sim. If this is true, then they may have intentions of making lots of add-on planes available. Now, I am still hoping that 3rd party developers can continue to produce their add-ons just in case the ones released by MS are not what we want.

But If there will just be default aircraft and no add-on ones by MS, then I want the following:

-Robinson R66
-Robinson R44
-MD530F
-Boeing 787-8
-Cessna 182
-Cessna 152
-Boeing Stearman (I assume we are already getting it has been in both videos)
-Bell 205

8-)

[f-35simpilot]

all the originals from FS2004 and FSX plus;
military: F-35B, Harrier, Eurofighter, F-22, F-15 (Cause it is a LEGEND!), C-130, C-17, and for A real hoot the C-5M!!!

Airliners: 787, 747 dreamlifter, embraer, 737-200 (gravel pack including a good exaust smoke), IL-76, IL-62.

Vintage: T-6 Texan (a classic), T-28 Fennec, P-47, P-51, Spitfire, Lockheed Super Constellation, DC-4.

Small Airliners: Saab-340, Beech-1900D, Shorts-360, king air.


GA: Beavers, Turbo-Beaver, twin-otter



i would be more than happy with that list

[Fozzer]

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[RaptorF22]

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I thought that was more for aircraft and scenery design. :-?

[Fozzer]

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I thought that was more for aircraft and scenery design. :-?

A well designed Cessna 150/152 Trainer is the only important one I would wish for, for all the would-be "Heavy" Pilots here, to practice their skills on FIRST!

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[SeanTK]

My list of defaults:

Douglas DC-3
Cessna 172 (or 150)
Piper Cherokee 180
Bell 206
Eurocopter AS365 (I can dream...)
Robinson R-22 (or R-44)
Sikorsky Uh-60
Boeing 737
Boeing 747
Airbus A320
Airbus A340
De Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver (many configurations)
Bombardier Learjet 60
North American P-51D Mustang
Supermarine Spitfire (any mk.)
Beechcraft B58 Baron
Beechcraft King Air B200
Beechcraft B1900D
Canadair CRJ-200 or 700
Boeing V-22 Osprey
Boeing Stearman (pretty much confirmed from previews)
Saab 340 or 2000


All with full VCs, accurate systems, etc.

[Flying Trucker]

My thoughts and list of Default Aircraft

DeHavilland of Canada DHC-3 Otter and DHC-2 Beaver in all configurations from radial engine to turbine.  Amphibious Floats, Wheels, Wheel/Skis and Floats
Cessna 180 & 185 in all configurations
Douglas DC3 with retractable skis

Lots of rag and tube aircraft and general aviation singles and light twins in all configurations

If a Default Aircraft like the Beaver in FSX is included on floats only it is useless to most of us unless there are some freeware downloads.
So when supplying a Default Aircraft make it accurate and in all configurations.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

[Atticus18]

HELO-CHOPPERS!!!! :       

EC-135
EC-145 / UH-72
BELL 206, 407, 412 
OH-58D   ;)
UH/SH/MH-60M (glass cockpit)
R-22/44/66
CH-47F (glass cockpit)
SCHWEIZER 300C
AH-64A/D
EH-101 (fixed flight dynamics of course )
LYNX

FIXED WING:

CESSNA 152/172/182
BEECH BONANZA (V AND T TAIL)
BEECH BARON
T-34C
CITATION (ANY)
LEAR 45
CRJ 900
SAAB 340/2000
ATR 72
BOEING 737/747/757/767/777/787
AIRBUS A320/A340/A380 (yeah I know, it's a flying forehead)
PITTS S2B (had enough of the extra 300...)
MD11/DC10
C130
C17
C5

I could go on forever......

[DaveSims]

I actually do not like to have too many default aircraft.  I rarely fly any of the default aircraft since almost any add-on is higher quality.  And sometimes if there is a default, no developer will take on the challenge to make one better.

[drbob777]

A C172P  model would be nice, considering the majority of pilots that rent fly N/P models.

[machineman9]

I think there should be more light trainer aircraft. I do love the Grob Tutor G115E so I'd have to ask for that to be in the game (I should really finish off my version of it at some point!)

A380 as standard would be interesting as there is the 747 on the Boeing side of things.

More military aircraft (C130 for example) would be very nice to have too.

Concorde would definately be welcome and heavily used as well.

[Steve M]

They will want to stick my fav the Beech Baron in there or they won't be blessed with my company.  So stick it MS. In there.   ;)

[Travis]

Atticus: you'll never get MS to give you such specific options.

I would, however, wish for the ability to have some freedom in the creation process.  Stock aircraft are a shadow of what is available in terms of how the sim is constructed.  So to that end:

2 or 3 very light aircraft, like gliders and the like.
4 or 5 GA aircraft that are prolific.
6 or 7 airliners (Airbus, Boeing)
1 or 2 specialized aircraft, like the Moller Skycar or Osprey.
2-5 military aircraft from around the world.

The mil aircraft could be anything from C-130s to AN-225s.  The actual type is not important, just so long as the technology to implement them is there.

The real test is that there is a way to create any aircraft that currently or potentially might exist in the next few years.  If they don't include it in the initial release, it will certainly be created within 6 months of the sim being sent out.

Given that this a new sim, it should be maintained that the modeling process (and program used to create it) will most likely be new or very recent, and therefore very hard to get or obtain.  I don't expect any freebies on the modeling side, since MS has shown itself to be an uncompromising b***ch in this respect from the past.

[BrandonF]

Atticus: you'll never get MS to give you such specific options.

He's not expecting them all to be included, just that it would be nice to see any of these in the final release. There obviously won't be that many.

8-)