MS Announces New Flight!

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Re: Microsoft Flight

Postby Al_Fallujah » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:45 pm

[quote]If it looks anything like that video portrays,
can you imagine how long it will be before anyone can run it?
:-/

A lot of people are still having issues getting FSX & FS9 to run,
I can't possibly imagine why they would push the envelope even further,
unless of course they've gone the route of dumbing down the game engine to allow it to run smoothly,
and putting the real burden on the graphics card,
instead of the CPU.

I really hope this isn't some cheap 'video game' of flight.
It's bad enough that it appears to be online based.

Seeing as how the majority of MSFS supporters still feel abandoned by MS,
I see this one falling on it's face,
and being supported only by the trendiest of 'gotta have the best' types.

Won't hold my breath on this one.
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Re: Microsoft Flight

Postby XxRazgrizxX » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:36 pm

Is it just me, or does the video in the center of the page not work?



I have video problems too but if you go here it works

http://kotaku.com/5614491/flight-simulator-returns

:)
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby machineman9 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:24 pm

[quote]It'll be for a gaming console, not a PC.
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Re: Microsoft Flight

Postby JBaymore » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:29 pm

I'm trying to decide if this thread stays here, gets shifted to "other software"  ........ or rightfully goes straight to "Multiplayer"?   ;D ;D ;D

Folks... much as we all love flight SIMULATION... the $$$ are in the casual flier gamer market.  Microsoft is not stupid. 

However, with this release ...they are trying to have their cake and eat it too, I think.  Mistake.

I like my FS2004.  ;)

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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby JBaymore » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:34 pm

The following postings were merged into this thread from the FSX section.  This discussion fits better here than in FSX.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby yancovitch » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:09 pm

whatever they do ...yes...i bet they'll design it so nobody else will be able to profit by addons etc....
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby machineman9 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:27 pm

whatever they do ...yes...i bet they'll design it so nobody else will be able to profit by addons etc....

Well they definately promote user made addons (they did give away GMax and SDK software with previous releases) but I don't know why they would stop others from profiteering. Unless they were going to release a lot of addons themselves, they wouldn't be losing any revenue, thus no point in it.
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Re: Microsoft Flight

Postby machineman9 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:28 pm

I was thinking, if its online based, their servers are doing all the CPU work. Your bandwidth would determine how pretty it looks?

And anyone that has ever played any online game is familiar with the word LAG.

L...L...L...OnLive?
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby BrandonF » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:12 pm

I'm not getting my hopes up about this either. If that video was taken from in-game, I can't imagine what the actual simulator would do to our poor, defenseless computers!  ;D :o

I'm sticking with FSX (and occasionally FS9  :D) and just sitting back to watch all the problems with the sim when people get it.  :D
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby Fr. Bill » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:48 pm

[color=#000000]JC on a Crutch! I've haven't read so much rampant, paranoid and utter BS since the months before FSX was released...

...or the months before FS9 was released...

...or the months before FS2k2 was released...

...or...

Is anyone else seeing a pattern here?  :)

One hundred and thirty-three carefully chosen words in an official "MS Press Release" have already generated well in excess of 1,000,000,000 words of -mostly- BS across the internet in less than 24 hours!

From the trail of "breadcrumbs" I've carefully gathered up over the past two years, here is my forecast:

1. It will be for PCs, not X-Box.

2. FS9 - pretty decent and stable platform

3. FSX - many improvements, but many "performance issues," only some of which new hardware has managed to overcome, and despite two full service releases.

4. FSvNext - ACES continued improvements, but were moving in a direction contrary to the desires of their "bosses" at MS GAME Studios, the results of which were the nearly complete sacking of the ACES team.

5. Microsoft Flight - new "in-house" team working from the previous codebase (FS9) but now focused on streamlining the platform into the MS LIVE for Windows paradigm, and using the latest DX11 APIs and tools.

6. MS Live will replace the really lame "Gamespy" as the online social environment, and will remain FREE of charge.

7. All add-on content will be veted by MS and available exclusively through the online LIVE store. Some addons will be freeware, the rest certified payware.

8. Off-line play will remain a viable option for everyone.

9. The platform will be scalable, allowing everthing from the most casual to the most difficult (i.e., realistic) flying experience.

Considering in retrospect that my predictions for FSX long before I was invited into the beta program was ~96% accurate, I maintain a high confidence level with these predictions...
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby Slotback » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:48 am

Hopefully it does not have an outdated, slow, decade old engine like FSX that still runs badly on midrange computers. I'm glad they're doing something new, because I think most would agree that another release like FSX would be disappointing in pretty much every way possible. The only thing that remains to be seen is how well they pull it off. I also, hope, that it's still a simulator, but we'll see when more information comes out. I wonder if they dropped the 'simulator' from the title because it's no longer a simulator, or because they want to differentiate it with the previous flight simulators from some reason? Besides, a "Microsoft Flight Simulator XI" would sound boring.

"Twenty-eight years after the debut of "Microsoft Flight Simulator 1.0," Microsoft Game Studios also announced the internal development of "Microsoft Flight," a new Windows exclusive. "Microsoft Flight" will bring a new perspective to the long-standing genre, welcoming everyone, including long-time fans, to experience the magic of flight."

So it's definitely something new.... I am happy, but also cautious!

Here's a higher resolution video that looks damn sweet:

http://content4.catalog.video.msn.com/e ... 71c269.wmv

I'm not going to condemn it until more information comes out! Also, it might be pre-rendered, meaning it's may not be the actual game, or the actual graphics! Anyone else remember the DX10 pictures of FSX, that were later found out to be concept art? Come to think of it, it looks like it may be pre-rendered.

If anyone remembers this blog by P-12C? He posted again:

http://paul-flightsimguy.spaces.live.com/default.aspx


"Cough, cough...
Just dusting off the cobwebs a bit. I might actually need to do something with this blog in the future."
which was like 1 day before the annauncement

too early to tell what it will be like imo


pretty much all we know is:
1. The video was probably pre-rendered
2. it will use windows live
3. it will not be developed by ACES
4. it's probably going to be significantly different to MSFS.
5 . it may / may not be a simulator



As far as Windows live goes, it's probably like GTAIV, or Dirt 2. You pretty much only log into Windows live for copy protection (verifies your cd-key and account bascially) and if you want to play online. You can also join friends servers, and message them.... which is great. also, windows live is a free service, I find it HIGHLY doubtful, even impossible to beleive that there will be a subscription free.

I agree with Bill 99%, although I think that it will likely be using a whole new engine, which is great. It will not be ACES developing this like FS9 / FSX, so I doubt they'd use the same engine...

P.S:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/CloudBgnd.jpg

Cool photo. It's the background for the site. KSEA. Obviously not an in-game photo, but just thought I'd point it out.

P.P.S

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

Notice the picture of the pilot on the right is a Women. And also the woman in the video saying, 'when I was young, I dreamed I could fly'. Wonder if they're connected?

P.P.P.S

[quote]If it looks anything like that video portrays,
can you imagine how long it will be before anyone can run it?


A lot of people are still having issues getting FSX & FS9 to run,
I can't possibly imagine why they would push the envelope even further,
unless of course they've gone the route of dumbing down the game engine to allow it to run smoothly,
and putting the real burden on the graphics card,
instead of the CPU.

I really hope this isn't some cheap 'video game' of flight.
It's bad enough that it appears to be online based.

Seeing as how the majority of MSFS supporters still feel abandoned by MS,
I see this one falling on it's face,
and being supported only by the trendiest of 'gotta have the best' types.

Won't hold my breath on this one.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby pete » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:39 am

What made the original BAO/MSFS 'Flight Simulator' series what it became was the input of 1000's of enthusiastic, self driven
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby tcco94 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:36 am

I would be excited but theres no point to get excited when i dont even have a computer that can run FSX so it wont be able to run this.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby Fozzer » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:25 am

I'll see it, when I see it... ::)...!

Without getting over excited...

Like all my other "games" when they come out, I'll study it, and if I think I like it, and my computer will run it, I will buy it...

..otherwise, I wont...

Its that simple!... :)...!

Paul.

...at the moment, I'm not holding my breath... ;)...!
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby JBaymore » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:28 am

Notice the picture of the pilot on the right is a Women. And also the woman in the video saying, 'when I was young, I dreamed I could fly'. Wonder if they're connected?


Of course, they are connected.
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