MS Announces New Flight!

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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby SeanTK » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:09 pm

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A new video has been put up on the Flight website along with an FAQ. Very cool!


http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

Interesting. Hopefully we'll see some in game movies/shots soon (those look like renders to me). I am very glad that a preliminary FAQ section is present now, and answers many questions that users in the community have had.

So......we "know" the following:

It will be for the PC....NOT X-Box.

MS is claiming that existing fans of the FS franchise will be accommodated with no decrease in realism/fidelity with the new program. "...full fidelity simulation" (their words)

MS claims that "some" members of the ACES team are working on this project.

It will be designed to take advantage of our increasingly social online societies. New, easy ways to connect with others in the FS community will be present through this program.

New features will be added to cater to users who have never before used or considered using a Flight Simulator program, and will be designed as to not scare them off due to the complexity.


Unknowns/Unanswered questions:


There are still many unknowns regarding the third party addon scene.

We do not know what game engine is being used. The wording implies that it is a completely different system/approach from the FS code/style. This could result in a very fresh new start for addon creators that wish to stay relevant when this program hits the market.

Internet connection required at all times to use the software? (increasingly common with many other programs)

We have no screenshots/videos to go off of showing what the new sim/progam will be like, unless what is shown is in game. (Again, they look like renders to me....but I could be wrong.)



The bottom line:

There will VERY likely be a tremendous amount of upheaval across all reaches of the flight simulation community as this knowledge and more comes to light. We still have many unknowns, but we also have some comforting assurances that I believe dominated many of the subject lines in queries about this program.
The only thing we can do is wait and see what Microsoft brings us.
Arguing, demanding, pleading, and rumor spouting will do no good as the FS community absorbs more knowledge about this.
A common trend will be to see some users claiming inside knowledge. They may be right in the long run, but it's worthwhile to be cautious. If you have knowledge of a particular aspect of this program and cannot back it up with sources, do not post it.
A new era begins in personal flight simulation, and I for one am now very optimistic about this program, thanks to these new updates.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby BrandonF » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:04 pm

Not going to fully believe this, as the guy has no proof that the info is from an actual Microsoft guy.


""Oh man, I wish I could share with you some of the tidbits of information I'm getting from developers. I'll say this... developers should be happier with the next iteration of FS. My understanding is it is more geared towards development than ever before. Let's hope the buzz I am hearing from several developers is true.""

Source:
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/294987-add ... ms-flight/

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PS: Sean, great post and conclusion. I agree 100%!!!  :)
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby patchz » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:11 am

I'll say this: if FSX aircraft don't work in it in a smooth transition, I'm not interested. It was just a few months ago that I finally got a machine that would run FSX and it has taken time and effort to build it to what I have now. If they can't create it to use previous aircraft and scenery well, they need to start over. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking too it. ::)
At least until I see something to change my mind.....

And what the heck is 'Silverlight'? I really hate following a link only to find out I have to download some new program to see anything.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby Boikat » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:54 am

From the linked post:  "Other interesting technologies for this team include: 3D Studio Max, Maya"

Well, now.  I have Maya (haven't fiddled with it yet) and the local Jr College's 3D animation course uses Maya.  Imay have to dust off the book, fiddle with Maya, and maybe go to colleg this coming spring..

I'm just curious as to how add-ons would be handled?
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby JBaymore » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:13 am

I'm just curious as to how add-ons would be handled?


THAT is the $10,000,000 question.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby DaveSims » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:45 pm

Must be getting serious now, it has its own topic.

I am concerned about the "whole new from the ground up experience."  I do not even us FSX much as I am very comfortable with FS9.  I guess I will have to wait and see what comes of it, I just hope Microsoft remembers we don't all own supercomputers, and build a program that can run on your average computer.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby Steve M » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:21 pm

My two cents. I think you cannot produce a better simulator that runs on average hardware unless the business end of the sim IS coming from a server. Lo and behold, the bottleneck would now become your internet provider AND your system. How will MS please us and their stockholders? I hope for the best, but I think the MS giant has been watching during the sim hiatus and seeing the payware and freeware deluge of products and downloads bypassing their cash registers. I'm truely sorry that my opinion of this is so negative but I know full well that MS is only doing this for the profits that they can reap.
(For the shareholders)..
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                          and FS9 is in the mail..     8-)       
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby BrandonF » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:27 pm

Computers are constantly being improved. FSX was released over four years ago. So by now, MS should be able to make their sim look good AND perform well on today's computers. Like they said, performance has been their #1 goal since day 1. I need to find that article....

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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby Boikat » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:44 pm

I'm sure they are aiming at what would be considered a "high end" PC by todays standards.  Probably a 4 GHZ system, minimum, and a high end graphics card.  I saw an "Avatar on-line" game about a month after the movie came out, and just off the top of my head, I seem to remember it's system requirements were for a 3, or 3.5 GHZ, processor.  Again, that was the *minimum* requirement for the CPU.

Are 8 GHZ processors on the market yet?  I haven't checked lately....  :P
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Re: MS Announces New Flight...Thing

Postby U4EA » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:54 pm

I'll say this: if FSX aircraft don't work in it in a smooth transition, I'm not interested. It was just a few months ago that I finally got a machine that would run FSX and it has taken time and effort to build it to what I have now. If they can't create it to use previous aircraft and scenery well, they need to start over. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking too it. ::)
At least until I see something to change my mind.....


What he said! 8-)
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby patchz » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:32 am

Guess I missed reading something somewhere. If Steve is right, and your internet speed is a factor in how well it runs, then my interest in it lessens even more.

[rant]And I am sick of the constant upgrade hardware/upgrade software war between the manufacturers. They need to slow down progress, not speed it up. There is such a thing as too much progress too fast, and imho, we

reached it about five or ten years ago, at least as far as personal computing goes. I guess I'm somewhat like Paul, I don't like change, and becoming a 'disposable' society is one of the biggest mistakes we have ever

allowed. [/rant]
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby DaveSims » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:31 am

Guess I missed reading something somewhere. If Steve is right, and your internet speed is a factor in how well it runs, then my interest in it lessens even more.

[rant]And I am sick of the constant upgrade hardware/upgrade software war between the manufacturers. They need to slow down progress, not speed it up. There is such a thing as too much progress too fast, and imho, we

reached it about five or ten years ago, at least as far as personal computing goes. I guess I'm somewhat like Paul, I don't like change, and becoming a 'disposable' society is one of the biggest mistakes we have ever

allowed. [/rant]


Not get too far off topic, but I agree totally.
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby Fozzer » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:45 am

Well.... ::)....

Without spending loadsamoney on a complete, very expensive, Computer build, I am (happily) limited to running my Trusty FS '98/2000/2002 and 2004, whilst my copy of FSX lies in darkness in my bottom drawer...
..and with other, more important, priorities in mind, that wont be happening any time soon... :).... ;)...!

I must admit that I play this "stuff" just for fun, like I did on my old 8_bit Computers*, long, long ago... ;D...!

Paul...*Clive Sinclair: The King is Dead. Long live the King!... ;D...!

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..and a lot of Spiders and dead Mice...

...see what I mean!... ;)... ;D...!
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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby JBaymore » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:20 am

*Clive Sinclair: The King is Dead. Long live the King!... ;D...!.


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Re: MS Announces New Flight!

Postby f-35simpilot » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:18 pm

they now have a general e-mail address posted for suggestions, I already sent a suggestion but would appreciate you all to second my thought.



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Carriers would be so mush easier to land on if they would just stop turning!!!
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