AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:42 pm
by macareno

Hi !
I downloaded Cyril Pioffet's great AS341 Gazelle helicopter.
But, it emits so much black and white smoke that you think
the helo is on fire.
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:51 pm
by Jetranger
OPEN up the Aircrafts CFG File,,,, found at the bottom of all your Aircrafts folders for that particular Aircraft,,, once you open the AIRCRAFTS CFG File,,, scroll down on the LEFT side slowly,,, and look for the words [Smoke System] - then Below that are some numbers and other B.S.,,, just eliminate or Delete anything right below that,,, [Smoke System] , only just below the words smoke system tho,,,,, then Click on SAVE ,, in the upper left hand corner of the file,,, SAVE,,,, NOT save as!!!!! you should be fine ,, if not let us know !!
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:11 am
by macareno
Hi !
There is no smoke system section at all in the original aircraft.cfg.
So I added one using [smoke system], [smokesystem] or [smoke_system ] with nothing under it.
The smoke is still there.
By the way, the Tolga Piskin's Gazelle as a smoke section with various values but unfortunatly he forgot to include the .fx files in his package.
This is the model I'll be creating views for very soon.
Still it would be great to solve this mystery !
Thanks for your help !

Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:30 am
by Jetranger
sounds like its tied to the aircrafts MDL file some how,,,, and I have NO clue where to go from there ,, sorry,,,
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:46 pm
by Scatterbrain Kid
I just downloaded the Gazelle and I can't stop the smoke either!
I e-mailed Pioffet but it bounced, so i'm going to uninstall it.
There are plenty more Gazelles around for download..

Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:04 pm
by Jetranger
Now ya'll got me curious, so now I'm gopin to try it see if I can dig thru where the problem lies,,, i'll be back,,,, as Arnie says,,I'll be Bock ,,,,,
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:02 pm
by Jetranger
Downloaded it, Injected it into "FSX Gold Acceleration",,,, I have Windows 7. After downloading it, and firing up the Heli', I hit the "I" smoke key,,,, nothing, NO Smoke,, no hint of any smoke - nothing,,, so then I gave it Full Throttle and took it up, still NO Smoke at all,,, don't know,,, must be the way your windows system is reading a file or a graphics issue or something. I did not change any files ,, just left everything as it came in the download,,, tho - - - I did delete those extra panel file and some other file that came with the copter, and left everything else ( See Screen Shot). Sorry can't help ya,,, want some good Heli's try "Rotorcraft Simulations.Com" they have some nice Heli's too !!! Freeware ~ !!!! (
http://www.eaglerotorcraftsimulations.com/ )




Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:45 pm
by Scatterbrain Kid
Hey Jetranger, why hasn't my Gazelle folder (below) got a 'texture.IHS' in it like yours? -

Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:58 am
by Jetranger
OK ~ I admit, I only searched once for this Heli', and assumed this is the one you downloaded ?? evidently, you've downloaded one with a lot more Textures, so the one I have will be different than yours . Also, since their 2 different downloads of the same Heli' by evidently the same Designer, you may be able to swap MDL and Model files with your with results

? I dunno' you'll have to experiment and test & see. Which also is reason to believe WHY my Heli' download Aircrafts Texture folder is named different than yours that resides in your Sim . All I know ( which isn't much

) , is that I had NO Smoke at all from this particular Heli. Below is a Screen Shot of the very Exact Heli that I Injected into my FSX Sim. Hope it helps ya

I dunno' ? Jetranger / Kansas City (KMKC)


Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:28 am
by Scatterbrain Kid
This (below) is the one I was talking about, (it smokes like the furnaces of hell). The moral for all of us is therefore to in future make sure we're all singing from the same song sheet!
And hey Macareno, another moral is to never waste too much time trying to get dead duck downloads to work; just delete them and download another one to try until you find one that works..


Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:41 am
by Jetranger
and I thought I was the only 1 that was Scatter Brained ??

Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:01 am
by Hagar
The moral for all of us is therefore to in future make sure we're all singing from the same song sheet!
This is the reason I always ask anyone seeking help with a download to provide a link to the problem file, preferably to the page it's posted on so I can check it out.
After a process of elimination I've found the solution is simple enough.
Open Aircraft.cfg of the Gazelle in Notepad.
Scroll down to the [GeneralEngineData] section & change the engine type to 3 (Helo-Turbine) like this.
[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=
3
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:29 pm
by macareno

Hi to all !
I applied the suggestion by Hagar ( engine_type
Re: AS341 Gazelle by C. Pioffet : how to get ride of too much smoke !

Posted:
Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:30 am
by painguin4
Hi,
I found the cfg. file and the engine location but notepad will not let me save the change to 3 when I exit. Says access denied.
I am using windows 7 and FSX.