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Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:01 pm
by Cusance
OK so maybe I am becoming grumpy but I am also becoming increasingly fustrated and annoyed by folks who post repaints as being FSX compatible but without VC. That aint FSX compatibility ! Its only 2004 compatibility. also while I am on a roll here: stop changing gate names and numbers to 'reflect reality' you screw up progressive guiding and changing runway names

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:14 pm
by ozzy72
A repaint traditionally is only the exterior view of the aircraft, the VC is an integral part of the model and nothing to do with repainting...

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:22 pm
by Cusance
unless someone does a repaint of a 2004 plane and posts it as a FSX compatible.

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:06 pm
by hyperpep111
Actually, I know of a number of fsx "native" aircraft that don't have vc's. Can you post a link/links to which/examples of plane(s) you are having trouble with :).

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:51 pm
by pete
[quote]OK so maybe I am becoming grumpy but I am also becoming increasingly fustrated and annoyed by folks who post repaints as being FSX compatible but without VC. That aint FSX compatibility ! Its only 2004 compatibility. also while I am on a roll here: stop changing gate names and numbers to 'reflect reality' you screw up progressive guiding and changing runway names

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:58 pm
by Cusance
no, i dont have any specific problems. any so called FSX compatibles that arent I uninstall. Its just a hassle. I do appreciate what people do, but maybe it is my professional IT background that objects to people posting stuff that isnt what it seems. It is really quite simple; if it hasnt a VC it isnt FSX compatible. So please SAY so. also dont do anything with scenery that breaks things like progressive taxi, Vectoring etc. perfectly reasonable request. whether I have posted anything myself isnt relevant at this point.

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:46 pm
by Cusance
[quote][quote]OK so maybe I am becoming grumpy but I am also becoming increasingly fustrated and annoyed by folks who post repaints as being FSX compatible but without VC. That aint FSX compatibility ! Its only 2004 compatibility. also while I am on a roll here: stop changing gate names and numbers to 'reflect reality' you screw up progressive guiding and changing runway names

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:53 pm
by Jetranger
I've been running into kinda of the same problems tho a tad bit different , not just this site either but a few others as well let me explain: for example - last week, I spent the better part of say 10 hours just playing Aircraft Mechanic on some of the Aircraft I've downloaded , some of which clearly stated they were for FSX Compatibility but were from FS2004 - OK, fine i'll try it,,, and I go and Manually install the aircraft - fire up the sim - (usually a propliner) , and take a look at it - well well,, wouldn't ya know it - the creator has the PROP textures wrong in the wrong format - usually its the "Prop Blurr" texture located within the Aircrafts Texture folder itself and I find it was saved in some format NOT compatible for "FSX"

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:12 pm
by Cusance
I agree jetranger. People should be more careful when they decide to post to the public. Some folks do it right: they say that they havent tested it in FSX or they know something doesnt work. But some simply say that its 2004 and FSX compatible when it clearly isnt. Like you I have pulled models apart, spend time, but now I just ditch things if they dont work. the posts that say that it 'should be compatible with FSX' I dont touch at all. the fustrating thing is that most of the problems can be detected with a bit of simple testing. Many folks do such good work, but simply dont finish the job. If you do not have all the systrms yourself then send it to someone first who does and ask for it to be tested. That way a poster will build a reputation for reliability. Posts from sone people I dont even test, they go straight into FSX as I know they have done their homework and stuff works. All compliments to PAD. Also for free by the way but reliable and thus supported with donations.

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:20 pm
by alrot
[quote][quote][quote]OK so maybe I am becoming grumpy but I am also becoming increasingly fustrated and annoyed by folks who post repaints as being FSX compatible but without VC. That aint FSX compatibility ! Its only 2004 compatibility. also while I am on a roll here: stop changing gate names and numbers to 'reflect reality' you screw up progressive guiding and changing runway names

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:41 pm
by andy190
I agree with Alrot. Also just because it doesn't have a vc doesn't mean its not fsx compatible. :P
And if a plane doesn't work with dx10 preview on turn it off. ::)

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:12 pm
by Ang2dogs
[quote]I've ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jetranger

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:07 am
by hyperpep111
Here's a list of Fsx Native Freeware planes.
Phil Taylor's FSX Native Aircraft list
And you'll find that not all have vc's. Just because it's fsx native doesn't mean that it has a vc. Most people don't know how to make vc's/ Have vc's in the works and are fully fsx native.
Like the Thor's hammer Rafale. Has a vc in the works but is absolutely beautiful exterior 8-).
And Pete can You please Put the native list in a sticky, Please? :)

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:33 am
by pete
And Pete can You please Put the native list in a sticky, Please?


It's been there for years ... :)

Re: Am I becoming a grumpy old man?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:18 pm
by alrot
And Pete can You please Put the native list in a sticky, Please?


It's been there for years ... :)


that list needs to be updated